[texbirds] Re: RFI--Is a breeding plumaged male Scarlet Tanager possible on Oct 31 in Harris County?

  • From: James Hinson <jmhinson@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:09:24 -0600

Another definite ID possibility around Harris County would be Orange Bishop.  
Plenty of them around here.

Jim Hinson
Houston, Tx.

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On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:33 PM, "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender 
"live4birds@xxxxxxx" for DMARC) wrote:

> Pyle 1997 lists the fall adult molt as July-Sept. Consider Vermilion 
> Flycatcher as a possible explanation for reports of red adult male Scarlet 
> Tanagers in late fall/winter. 
> 
> Mary Gustafson
> Mission Texas
> 
> (Stupid Spell Check and Auto Correct Provided by iPhone)
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>> On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:24 PM, "Berner Family" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> (Redacted sender "jcazberner@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) wrote:
>> 
>> Am reading a written report of a male scarlet tanager still in full breeding 
>> plumage on Halloween in Harris County.
>> Is this possible--or mistaken ID? Has anyone seen breeding plumage male 
>> scarlet tanagers this late in SE Texas?Do male scarlet tanagers ever migrate 
>> while still in breeding plumage?
>> Cornell Lab has the following"In fall, males trade red feathers for 
>> yellow-green and the birds take off for northern South America." and "The 
>> male Scarlet Tanager undergoes a complete molt in the late summer/fall that 
>> results in a greenish bird with black wings."
>> 
>> Molt in North American Birds By Steve N. G. Howell 
>> says on page 225 (in the Tanagers section),
>> "Preformative and prebasic molts occur on the breeding grounds, prior to 
>> migration, Â except for some Western Tanagers that molt at staging sites on 
>> their way South,
>> This link to "Ornithology" by Frank Gill  indicates July/August as typical 
>> time for pre-basic molt for first year male scarlet tanagers but doesn't 
>> indicate exactly when adult male scarlet tanagers undergo pre-basic molt.
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=zM0tG5ApO0UC&pg=PA110&lpg=PA110&dq=what+month+where+do+male+scarlet+tanagers+molt+to+yellow+feathers&source=bl&ots=T0nKQF-Hkl&sig=BjO4W-7RFbJE19erRI9Q2z3va0o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xodWVIa1Mo-gyASqlYLYBw&ved
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>> Interested in your experiences. ThanksJohn BernerHouston
>> The Berners
>> John, Cathy, Abby and Zach
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