Followed Floyd Graham's link to the Mew and Ring-billed Gull photos. I think the bird that is offered for comparison as Ring-billed Gull is actually a washed out looking California Gull, going by the really long primary projection and pinkish leg color. California's bill would be a bit longer than a Ring-billeds, but that might not be as visible in the photo due to angle of camera to bird. The possible Mew Gull does look smaller than the surrounding Ring-billed Gulls, and the bill looks a bit shorter, but the difference appears sort of borderline to me... If it's a Mew Gull would it be the European form ("Common Gull')? John Mariani Lumberton, TX Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner