'Twas a a productive day of gull-watching in ne. Austin despite the frosty temps (was 28-30 degrees most of the day). Except for a couple of breaks to thaw out and regain feeling in my fingers, I spent from 10.25am to a little past 4pm today (7 December) scoping out the gulls in the area of the landfills in far northeast Austin. Since you are not allowed in the landfills (I asked today), the best (and probably only) vantage point is about a quarter-mile down Blue Goose Road east of Giles Rd. You can park your car where a new road/subdivision is starting to be built out and then walk off the shoulder of Blue Goose the next .1 to .2 miles to check out (scope needed) the gulls moving in & out of the small retention pond on the landfill property. When the landfill is not open/trash not being actively dumped, there can be ZERO gulls here. I don't think they are open on Sundays but are the rest of the week. There were substantially more gulls today then I usually find with perhaps a couple thousand Ring-billeds all told. Finding anything other than Ring-billeds is usually a challenge here but through the course of the day, I was also able to locate: - 2 Franklin's (1 first-cycle - photo'ed, 1 adult) - 8-9 Herrings (all first-cycle except for one second-cycle) - 1 California (first-cycle - photo'ed) - 1 Lesser Black-backed (first-cycle, not photo'ed but studied well in flight and sitting on water) The California and the Lesser Black-backed are perhaps the same interesting gull "spuh's" that Rich Kostecke had photographed over Thanksgiving on Lake Travis. I have occasionally pondered where exactly the Austin gulls roost and how far they travel on a daily/weekly basis and it doesn't seem far-fetched to me that the same gulls that make it as far west as Lake Travis make it to the landfill and back during the season. -- Eric Carpenter Austin Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner