[texbirds] Re: Need your knowledge
- From: Brush Freeman <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "c.o.carver@xxxxxxxxx" <c.o.carver@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:56:15 -0600
Also finds made on public property can really be proprietary In the long haul
but some entities or companies working those Witt public funding can hold the
data during a "processing" that can last years IE. Gi's BCVI data if on going
can be off the"books" a very long time as long as the research is ongoing. I
actually took classes/training on such issues so have at least a small
knowledge. And it can be a real bear to dig out FOIA data unless one knows ALL
the players involved. I don't do that fun. :-)
issue
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On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Cameron Carver <c.o.carver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes, people need to realize that there are a dozen or so different databases
> out there (or more). BUT in this increasingly interconnected, globalized
> digital world that we live it would be nice (and a goal to strive for) to
> have a single, universal database for bird observations. And don't get me
> started on the secret nature of some research and personal observations.
> People need to get over themselves. We don't own our observations and we
> don't own the science we conduct. Sharing is caring.
>
>
> And in the interest of full disclosure and to cover my ass, I work under
> non-disclosure agreements and fully comply with them. Just doesn't mean that
> I agree with them.
>
>
> Also... Sorry for that secrecy tangent.
>
> Cameron Carver
> Lubbock, TX
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 14:06, "gil.eckrich" <gil.eckrich@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On the other hand, too much reliance on ebird, or some other 'database', can
>> be misleading. On more than one occasion I had out-of-state
>> birders/photographers contact me to adjust or even cancel a field trip to
>> Fort Hood to see Black-capped Vireo or Golden-cheeked Warbler because they
>> had perused ebird and had found NO reports for either species for the
>> installation. I tried to explain, sometimes unsuccessfully, that our data is
>> entered in our own database and not into ebird.
>> Gil Eckrich
>> Belton
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: texbirds-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:texbirds-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Susan Schaezler
>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:05 AM
>> To: Texbirds
>> Subject: [texbirds] Need your knowledge
>>
>> We had one interesting event in the zoning hearing and I wanted to ask our
>> talented Texbirders. This was the gist :
>>
>> "the developer described ebird as being run by an out-of-state college, as
>> if it's a bad thing. You know, ivy leagues are unreliable. "
>>
>> Their biologist continued by implying it was for more novice/casual birders
>> and wasn't reliable. They use Geospace and since I didn't have a single
>> bird listed, they were surprised. I told them I had never heard of it and
>> all my birds are in Ebird and some get into the RBA
>>
>> The Commission members wanted me to see if I needed to enter data somewhere
>> else. The developers saw the pictures of the birds, but no data.
>>
>> So, please share your knowledge!
>>
>> Susan Schaezler
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