Didn't have to go to Smith Point this morning to count hawks as we had plenty here at our house. This morning started with me sitting out watching Hummingbirds still hoping for some thing besides a Ruby-throated. I believe we still have around 50 or so out there which is down from yesterday morning when I estimated 80-90. I went in and ate breakfast and went right back out and started noticing other birds moving around. It started with 4 White Ibis (1 juvie for Tony) 10 Am White Pelicans and then suddenly 3 Wood Storks joined them. While we were watching those 37 more Storks try to slip by us. About then is when I noticed the first kettle of 16 Broad-winged Hawks just West of us. Then a kettle of 63 a couple more small bunches and then about noon when the clouds were starting to burn off I had a large kettle that was so high I almost did not see them. If a handful had not gone in front of one of the few clouds left I would have missed them. I finally estimated 250 but could have been over 300. The wind must be moving pretty fast up there because when the kettle broke Westward they headed out so fast I just could not count them fast enough. Looks like they are following the North shore line of Trinity Bay. I have a question I have asked several people but would be interested what our Tex-birders do. I usually sit and count the Hummers at our feeders several times and get a rough average and multiply by 3 to get an estimated number in the yard. I would be interested in hearing what others are using or if some good standard is out there. I have heard all the way from multiple of 3 to 10. 302 Broad-winged Hawks 2 Red-shouldered Hawks 1 Coopers Hawk 9 Mississippi Kites 1 Swainson's Hawk 60 Wood Storks 10 Am White Pelicans 50 Ruby-throated Hummingbirds 120 Common Grackles Also a few of both species of Vultures but they did not appear to be migrating. David and Jan Hanson Baytown/Mont Belvieu Area Chambers County Galveston Bay Area Master Naturalist TOS Members Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner