There are a few things I would like to address in these post. I learned a lot from my last tern quiz about worries some people might have. Not from here but I received a note from one person stated that only photographers can see and study bird molt at leisure after they flew by; meaning that there is no opportunity (time) to do that in the field if one doesn't own a camera. This is not quite true; be back to that in the moment. It is quite fun to see some Forsterâs and Common Terns right now. As many Commons keep showing up things are getting even more interesting. Look here - not quite a quiz as I IDed birds in photos but look and try to find differences between these two terns by yourself, if interested. As you will see both species can show dark carpal bar but this is not going to be a big deal; molt stage will. http://www.pbase.com/mbb/image/149491086 Perhaps most fun is looking for differences between SY FOTE AND COTE right now and for sure great glass (Canon/Nikon long lenses) can help a lot but so can great (Leica) scopes and binoculars (from what I see in the field there is no shortage around here of those). And other brands are also great so no big difference. When checking the primary molt even roosting tern, from time to time, when preening or shaking plumage, will expose all or most primaries - enough to check for molt stage and molt limits. Scope and binoculars are enough (plus one can attach P&S camera to the scope) to see and study them. This received comment was about difficulties of seeing molt limits (or lack of them) without opportunity to take photo as I did in posted SY FOTE quiz of flying bird. So here is one roosting FOTE and I added 2 COTE for comparison (between both new posted photos one can see possible combinations of COTE molt limits now - from P10 still old to new one growing or grown and innermost pp in various molt stages as well). Judge for yourself if you can see and study primaries on preening bird or not. http://www.pbase.com/mbb/image/149491084 Also, perhaps some should consider to join TX-Ornithology as a little bird whispered to my ear that there are plans for some serious posts there. This should really be a great addition to this forum. But on the other hand I feel that most (if not all) topics should be of interest to at least a few groups of people here that might not be reading all serious posts and do not want to express their opinions publicly (orning; just heard this word for a first time and not sure yet how I feel about it) but would like to explore one new thing or two from time to time. Mark B Bartosik Houston, Texas http://www.pbase.com/mbb/from_the_field Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner