Thanks for all offline replies - will address those privately later today. In meantime I would like to post some information I got from a request posted on another forum. When European Brotherhood is trying to find Hudsonians on the other side of the pond Norman Deans van Swelm on his excellent page (http://www.radioactiverobins.com/BIRDSCAGE/snipes-waders/whimbrel%20numenius%20phaeopus.htm) summarized diagnostic traits (and also sent me his great collection of other photos to check) - I am copy the summary here and under my photo: Engelmoer & Roselaar (1998) recognize four subspecies of Eurasian Whimbrel Numenius phaeopus i.e. nominate phaeopus from Scandinavia to ca. SW Taimyr; islandicus from Iceland to Scotland; alboaxillaris from the steppes between the lower Wolga to SE of the Urals; variegatus from Taimyr to NE Siberia. There are differences in size between the various subspecies but on the axillaries of islandicus the white parts are mostly not wider than the brown bars; in phaeopus the white parts are mostly wider than the brown bars; in alboaxillaris the axillaries are white or have a few brown bars at most; variegatus has a whitish lower back spotted with brown and a barred white rump while it's axillaries have broad brown bars. Other replies also agree with this bird belong to nominal race and showing no intergrade characters. Mark B Bartosik Houston, Texas http://www.pbase.com/mbb/from_the_field In a message dated 5/8/2013 2:43:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, MBB22222@xxxxxxx writes: I see that Ron Weeks and others already posted their reports so no need to write the same information. I am not sure how many people are interested but here are a few photos, some showing the body and wing underparts. Unfortunately the most interesting photos were taken during the midday hours (when Eurasian chased away Hudsonian from his territort) but patterns are clearly visible. http://www.pbase.com/mbb/image/150073412 http://www.pbase.com/mbb/image/150073413 http://www.pbase.com/mbb/image/150073411 http://www.pbase.com/mbb/image/150073410 http://www.pbase.com/mbb/image/150073414 Mark B Bartosik Houston, Texas http://www.pbase.com/mbb/from_the_field Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner