Mira/Texbirders: I, too used to enjoy the whooping cranes results from aransas aerial surveys before the census taker Tom retired. the website provided detailed results shortly after each survey the current Aransas NWR web page is not very helpful http://www.fws.gov/refuge/aransas/science/whooping_crane_surveys.html the title is encouraging "2013-2014 Annual Whooping Crane Survey" but the link is to a 2011-12 scientific paper and the webpage describes methodology not 2013-2014 data (nor even 2012-2013 data). Some sort of survey re-design work was apparently done 1-2 years ago-- Are counts still being done? Is the data posted somewhere the public can see it? Did I just miss the data somewhere on the Aransas site? thanks John B Houston The Berners John, Cathy, Abby and Zach Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner