Tony, I really think you got caught up in the update cycle. That is what
happened to me. For several days some of my lists were screwed up, both in
order and completeness. I was advised to hang on for a few days, and, sure
enough, my problem lists were corrected and complete.
As I stated earlier, I have not completed my re-evaluation of the lists
that I was monitoring, but, so far, all are complete and correct.
I have no idea why they conducted the update in such a fractured manner.
It's spooky to see sightings missing for several days, then seeing them
showing back up with the new names and order. And it was not the entire
lists that disappeared - only the entries that were being updated.
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Anthony Hewetson <fattonybirds@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Greetings Bert (and texbirds):
Not to belabor a point but here is a tale of two checklists - that could
easily have been generated at a local hotspot in August (just entered in
eBird)
This first list follows eBird (Clements) order:
Cackling Goose
Northern Bobwhite
Pied-billed Grebe
Double-crested Cormorant
Great Egret
Turkey Vulture
American Coot
Black-necked Stilt
Killdeer
Wilson's Phalarope
Spotted Sandpiper
Black Tern
Rock Pigeon
Yellow-billed Cuckoo
Burrowing Owl
Common Nighthawk
Chimney Swift
Black-chinned Hummingbird
Belted Kingfisher
Ladder-backed Woodpecker
Western Kingbird
Blue Jay
Barn Swallow
American Robin
Northern Mockingbird
European Starling
Yellow Warbler
Cassin's Sparrow
Northern Cardinal
Red-winged Blackbird
House Finch
House Sparrow
Here is the same list in AOU order (as updated to their website July of
2016)
Cackling Goose
Northern Bobwhite
Pied-billed Grebe
Rock Pigeon
Yellow-billed Cuckoo
Common Nighthawk
Chimney Swift
Black-chinned Hummingbird
American Coot
Black-necked Stilt
Killdeer
Spotted Sandpiper
Wilson's Phalarope
Black Tern
Double-crested Cormorant
Great Egret
Turkey Vulture
Burrowing Owl
Belted Kingfisher
Ladder-backed Woodpecker
Western Kingbird
Blue Jay
Barn Swallow
American Robin
Northern Mockingbird
European Starling
House Sparrow
House Finch
Yellow Warbler
Cassin's Sparrow
Northern Cardinal
Red-winged Blackbird
eBird is most definitely not following the recent AOU revision and therein
lies the problem. I enter my data in a spreadsheet in current AOU order
(as based on the July 2016 update) and then attempt to slide that sucker
into eBird - having to scramble about quite a bit - even in this very short
and simple list.
Multiply this effort ten-fifteen fold per day times however many days in a
row I can get out to bird - and the disconnect between the AOU list (used
in all my compiling efforts - BBS, CBC, ABA - in country) and the eBird
list (which folk really seem to want ABA area observers to contribute to)
and it is, quite frankly, irksome.
Anthony 'Fat Tony' Hewetson; Lubbock
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Bert Frenz <bertf@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tony,causing
I'm not sure I see the problem. Cornell-Clements follows AOU for the
Americas, using both North and South lists whichever is newer. If ABA is
keeping up with AOU then the lists should be the same. What may be
the current problem, if any, is that eBird was just updated in the pastfew
weeks to Cornell-Clements changes.freelists.org]
Bert
-----Original Message-----
From: texbirds-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:texbirds-bounce@
On Behalf Of Anthony Hewetsonto
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 11:47 AM
To: texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [texbirds] Checklists - ABA vs. eBird
Greetings All:
As a person who compiles for the ABA and as a person who submits as many
reports as possible to eBird, the growing disconnect between the taxonomy
used by the two is frustrating - particularly as there is little, even
on-line, information available about the discrepancies. I attempt to
prepare my field notes in ABA order (which follows the AOU) and then try
enter the data into eBird (which follows Clements) and find myselfhopping
all over the place - as the two lists have become, increasingly, out of-
synch.
The last set of AOU-based changes to the ABA list has really brought this
into play. The lists are not even close - in terms of family placement!
and one can't help but wonder, with eBird playing an increasing role inABA
listing, when and if the ABA is going to shift from using the AOUchecklist
to using the eBird checklist?lists
This may not be entirely appropriate as a topic on texbirds but I was
interested in what other texbirders, particularly those who keep ABA
and submit records to eBird, think of the situation?permission
Anthony 'Fat Tony' Hewetson
By the by, the recent discussion of the need for new field guides,
following
the recent rearrangement of taxa by the AOU, missed one point.
Nobody could write a field guide that would be followable, taxonomically
speaking, by a resident in the ABA region AND a resident in the non-ABA
region.
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