Spent the afternoon with the swans. Was told there was one subadult and an adult. Just as the last person was leaving around 2:30 ish, another juvenile popped its head up out of the grass. Three swans in my viewfinder. One thing bothered me, the wind was keeping the visual from being very good, but the shape of the bill was too wide for a Tundra, and the Tundra bill should be a bit slopped and the head a bit more rounded. These birds had a large traingular shaped bill and the forehead angled into the bill. More like a Trumpeter. Never could get a good enough visual to say no yellow, but the skin appeared dark. Tried to a get a different view from the boardwalk, and watched as 2 apparent adults swam out from the high grass. View was not better, so still could not verify no yellow, but, the bills were visibly large, wide and triangular. So there are at least two adults, and two sub-adults, one slightly lighter in color perhaps some difference in age, there other is darker grey. They seemed to be coming out of the high grass where they were sleeping, so may have been more. Wouldn't it be wild if there are both species out there? But everything I saw appeared to be Trumpeters. Would sure love to see some good pictures of profiles. But that wind probably made that difficult. Vicki Crutchfield Live Houston (Harris County) and work in Galveston, (Galveston County) Cell : 409-789-1178 Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner