Ok, so we all think Dell's doing great stuff for Linux these days, right? Think again: Dell 2450's (and many other models) ship with Dell's PERCxx raid controllers. They're apparently pretty nice pieces of hardware. But that's about as far as it goes with Linux. - Dell won't release the source to the drivers. Obviously not a good thing. - Dell releases binary-only kernel modules for their cards. Also not a good thing, since running with kernel modules is bad. - Dell won't release a module compiled for kernel 2.2.16. Thus, all Dell servers are shipping with insecure kernels, and you can't upgrade them and continue to use the raid controller (thus risking losing all of your data if you weren't aware). They consider anything higher than kernel 2.2.14 "beta" and "untested." - These are all compiled with Redhat kernels, so they're of course not gauranteed to work with normal kernels (Redhat does funky things to the kernels, I understand). - Dell says "We only support Redhat" when you mentioned that you formatted and put a decent distribution on. Nothing against RH, of course. :) Wonderful. So I'm forced to use software raid on these things until Dell gets their head out of the sand. Does anyone have any thoughts on this stuff? John -- # John Madden weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ICQ: 2EB9EA # Sys-Admin / Webmaster, Avenir Web: http://avenir.dhs.org # LANdb: Network Admin Database - http://avenir.dhs.org/landb/ # NCPweb: Web-based frontend to ncpfs - http://avenir.dhs.org/ncpweb/ # Linux, Apache, Perl and C: All the best things in life are free!