Can't keep away from the keyboard on this one... :-) Regarding below, I can't help but note that we have sales guys at my company which can install Linux and get it running in our environment within the space of 15 minutes. Not sales engineers, mind you, but Hard Core Markedroids(tm). I can't remember the last time our team has had a Linux support call (this, within a company with 2500+ people spread across all time zones). No, we don't hand them a standard hardware base. No, we don't make them use a single "supported" distribution. Yes, we still get a very large number of calls from folks running WinWhatever on the same pieces of equipment (from the same people - most of them dual boot). Two or three years ago, I would have sympathized with the plight of the average person when it came to a Linux install. Given my experience (and the experiences of others), I've found that sympathy waning recently ;-). Not that people don't run into trouble with Linux - heaven knows they do. It's just that lately these problems have become the exception, not the rule. Then again, I could be wrong :-D. Have fun, -- John Bell Network Manager Vignette Corporation - http://www.vignette.com -----Original Message----- From: M.K. Chatterji [mailto:chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:56 PM To: technocracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: A whole new meaning to putting tasks in the background... <snip> Oh ho, I did peek up Steve. Let me tell you a story or two! All I got was utter frustration. I must be more clueless than the clueless journalists. I have been trying for three or four months now to help my son get Linux running at home, first as a general purpose machine and hoping eventually to get it going as a server for his friends to use. We never even got past the general purpose phase! We have tried Red Hat, VA Linux, Mandrake, Caldera, etc, FreeBSD, et al, and they all have their problems as far as working or installing even 80% right. Even using the so-called Office clone stuff we had problems printing, saving files to exchange with the Wintel world, on and on and on. </snip>