http://www.securityfocus.com/focus/ids/articles/kye/motives.html?&_ref=137236741 0 (Note the zero at the end which wrapped to the next line.) This is scary, hilarious, and disturbing all at the same time. That a couple of idiots who think they're "k3\/\/|_" because they can't type properly, can root-hack a system without even having to know basic shell commands disturbes me greatly. What's even more disturbing is that many would-be sysadmins aren't much smarter than these uninformed hAk3rZ. It would seem that the hackers seems to be out pacing the hackiees by a good margine. -- Steven Hunter | hunters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Hyrdoplanning towards infinity... Just some drag-queens and, me." - Olly