Leonard: Went there and could not find it. What would it be under. Jerry Alpha 21 Electronics Granite City, IL 62040 618-452-8620 alpha21century1234@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Leonard Caillouet <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Most all sets now have their own test pattern internally for convergence. You often need a source for the set to at least sync to. I found a unit called Gandtec Hi-Wire at TigerDirect.com for $100 that converts VGA to component and is selectable for 480p, 720p, and 1080i. You can create your own test patterns on your computer and display them on any ED or HD set. It has a VGA pass through so you can still connect your computer monitor. Seems to work well enough for everything that I have tried it with. Leonard Caillouet Electronics World 1261 NW 76 Blvd. Gainesville, FL 32606 352-332-5608 352-332-5668 fax ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bader" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: [TechAssist] inexpensive HD pattern generator inquiry I am assisting a small local TV shop (not unlike myself) in gearing up for HD service. He's waiting for DSL to be installed, then I will direct him to a forum.Aparently he doesn't have an HD generator, so if he needs to go to 1080i pattern to do a convergence, he's sunk. On a tight budget, can't afford thousands for a Sencore. I understand MCM has a Tenma for about $650.00. There was a company CMM (computer monitor maintanence) around that sold good priced sig gens.Need some suggestions to pass along to him. Even if a lesser brand has fewer patterns, as long as he can select a HD mode, isn't that the most important issue? Thanks, Phil Bader -- Philip Bader Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 Fax (863) 299-8821 email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Appliance Repair List: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.16 - Release Date: 5/24/2005 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Appliance Repair List: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Appliance Repair List: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/