[TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla

From: Larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:01:07 -0400
I agree 20% sounds fare. sounds too cheap on a 10 cent 
resistor , but maybe too high on a 1100 buck light engine.
50% used to be the markup on tubes.
if i stock a part and take the chance of eating it, i feel i 
deserve more for the gamble.
but to just order a part with a phone call, and then add big 
bucks on for the bother, some customers dont appreciate.
We all have our approaches that seem to work for our areas.
I also do computer work, and often allow the customer to pick 
up a hard drive where ever they like, and i will install it 
for 65 bucks an hour. and they seem to be happier than if i 
sell it to them, plus i dont have to guarantee it.
Most of the time my customers dont even ask what portion of 
the bill is parts or labor, only how much is the total estimate.
Do you agree, the total is what counts??
so does it really matter if it is 20 bucks for parts and 130 
labor = 150.
or 40 parts and 110 labor.
I often give small parts for free, it looks so funny to charge 
50 cents for a resistor and 250 bucks to find and install it.
but if i spent 2 days hunting, it is fare.
I never attempted to model my business after a quick 
convenience store. or radio shack.
  in fact i wont even sell parts across the counter it takes 
too much time spent ordering and hunting parts. and then the 
liability question also.
I send them to wal-mart for remotes and radio shack for 
resistors, etc.
I quit selling tvs several years ago, and think in was a good 
choice. I have saved countless hours not educating people on 
what to buy at wal-mart.
lol
I now use the theory that my time and knowledge are the 
valuable item, and i cant waist time on the parts needs for a 
do it your selfer, or programing a remote that they bring back 
next week because it was the set.
I am here to repair tvs, if they need and can afford me.

Please dont think i am criticizing your system, i love to hear 
others ideas, it makes me think and maybe improve my system.

larry



Electric Medic wrote:

> I don't think customers think that a fair markup is gouging. We markup our
> parts 20% period. That includes parts that customers price on the internet
> if they want me to spend my time ordering it. I tell them they can buy a
> remote cheaper at Wal-Mart, but if you want my original, then here is my
> price. I don't know anyone that doesn't. I don't inflate labor to make up
> for it, or to sell parts at cost either. look at convenient stores/gas
> stations. They sell their stuff for five or six times what a grocery store
> charges. I have never seen so many miniature products. They can make a tube
> of toothpaste one inch long and charge more than a king size tube at Kroger.
> It looks like they are selling samples. That is how they make their money,
> not off the gas. Customers buy their products everyday. They must markup
> 500% and advertise it to the world and run very successful businesses. I
> guess it is legal. So how can a fair markup of 20% be price gouging. I think
> our markup is cheap.
> 
> Perry
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:52 PM
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla
> 
> 
> my self, instead of marking the parts up and looking like im
> gouging them, i add shipping and handling to parts and charge
>   maybe higher than my competition for the labor. Which i
> think I am worth.
> the price of the part may be available on the inter net, but
> not my worth or my hours spent.
> I dont try to confuse them, people dont like to be tricked,
> be honest with them and dont be ashamed that you think you are
> worth good money.
> bottom line, it dont matter how you split the bill up, the
> total is what counts.
> Larry
> 
> 
> J Silverman wrote:
> 
> 
>>It depends on how determined the customer is to tell me how much I should
>>charge. They will find out what something costs if they are willing to put
>>enough effort into it. I charge a reasonable markup on parts. I am willing
>>to show the invoice to the customer, explain the shipping and handling
>>charges, the labor and phone costs to find, receive, and inspect the
> 
> parts,
> 
>>tell him about shrinkage and inventory carrying costs. I just feel if I
> 
> have
> 
>>to do all that education that I should receive a 3 or 4 hundred dollar
>>seminar fee. As soon as a customer starts to tell me what to charge I
> 
> refer
> 
>>them elsewhere. So with all these people poking around about costs, I can
>>understand a distributor being cagey about releasing pricing information.
> 
> At
> 
>>least one that we do business with will only quote retail and has provided
>>me with a discount multiplier so that I can figure our cost.
>>Jerry Silverman
>>Greentron Inc
>>4 Newland Ave
>>Greenville SC 29609
>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Andrew Rose" <badandy2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:27 AM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>if we all use techassist b we would not have that trouble
>>>Andrew Rose Action TV. Holbrook ny.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:59 PM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Messages on this list can be found by anyone using a Google type search.
>>>
>>>If
>>>
>>>
>>>>a wholesale price were quoted on the list, end users would be demanding
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>wholesale price on the part from servicers or from the distributor.
>>>>Jerry Silverman Greentron Inc
>>>>Mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>4 Newland Ave Greenville SC
>>>>29609                864 232 3889
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Leonard Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:48 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I believe that we already are in his database.  I have no problem with
>>>
>>>him
>>>
>>>
>>>>>as a distributor.  We don't use him becuse we have other options
>>
>>closer,
>>
>>
>>>>but
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>would if we found he had what we needed and was competitive.  My point
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>
>>>>>that when I see a price that is not competitive, I probably won't look
>>>>>twice, and I am sure most others would do the same.  Larry's question
>>>
>>>was
>>>
>>>
>>>>>very reasonable.  Why offer to sell at retail on a list populated only
>>>
>>>by
>>>
>>>
>>>>>legitimate shops?
>>>>>
>>>>>Leonard Caillouet
>>>>>Electronics World
>>>>>1261 NW 76 Blvd
>>>>>Gainesville, FL 32606
>>>>>352-332-5608
>>>>>352-332-5668 fax
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Shaun" <satguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 11:49 AM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Leonard, Bill is on of the best transistor and IC distributors I have
>>>
>>>ever
>>>
>>>
>>>>>dealt with and I think in his last e-mail to you he was just saying
>>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>>were
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>not on his list of dealers. It is simple to get dealer prices from him
>>>
>>>all
>>>
>>>
>>>>>you have to do is set up an account but really he is a great guy to
>>
>>deal
>>
>>
>>>>>with and extremely helpful, just my 2 cents I am really not trying to
>>>>
>>>>offend
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shaun
>>>>>
>>>>>Advanced Electronics
>>>>>224 West Riverview Ave.
>>>>>Fort Morgan, CO 80701
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Leonard Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:16 AM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Since the only people on this list are legitimate servicers, I would
>>>>
>>>>think
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>that you would be providing parts at your dealer pricing and setting
>>>
>>>up
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>anyone off of the list as a dealer.  No one here is going to pay
>>
>>much
>>
>>
>>>>>>attention to a distributor who expects us to pay retail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Leonard Caillouet
>>>>>>Electronics World
>>>>>>1261 NW 76 Blvd
>>>>>>Gainesville, FL 32606
>>>>>>352-332-5608
>>>>>>352-332-5668 fax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: <electronicabills@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:45 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Simple because you are not on our costumer database
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill Poulos
>>>>>>ELECTRONICA
>>>>>>2828 E. Colfax Ave
>>>>>>Denver,CO. 80206
>>>>>>1-303-322-3037
>>>>>>1-303-322-1135fax
>>>>>>www.electronica-usa.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Larry E <videotech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:11:05 -0400
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill, why would we pay full list price for any part? I don`t
>>>
>>>understand
>>>
>>>
>>>>>this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>post/reply,  Larry E
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Larry Eastman
>>>>>>American TV & Electronics
>>>>>>Crystal River, Fl. 34428
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: <electronicabills@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:59 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ctc203 flyback, nla
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We have an original one if you are willing to pay full list price
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bill Poulos
>>>>>>>ELECTRONICA
>>>>>>>2828 E. Colfax Ave
>>>>>>>Denver,CO. 80206
>>>>>>>1-303-322-3037
>>>>>>>1-303-322-1135fax
>>>>>>>www.electronica-usa.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Wayne Vanaman <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:57:24 -0500
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] ctc203 flyback, nla
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have an RCA F32tf600yx1 chassis ctc203ct with a bad flyback,
>>
>>part
>>
>>
>>>>>>>number 257160.  This part is NLA, under full warranty!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does anyone know of a superceeding number?  Currently awaiting a
>>>
>>>reply
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>from Thomson.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wayne Vanaman
>>>>>>>Omega Electronics
>>>>>>>6904 W Fairfield Dr
>>>>>>>Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>850-456-5995 voice
>>>>>>>850-458-6369 fax
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