[TechAssist] Re: Zenith SM2568S (9-1407) small horiz red band at top

  • From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:03:08 -0500

I need to get one soon.

Phillip R Hull
phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay" <admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:40 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Zenith SM2568S (9-1407) small horiz red band at
top


>
> Phillip,
>      Do you then not use a esr meter? I have had caps that read right on
> the money for capacitance but fail badly on esr. Jay
>
>
> At 10:25 AM 11/1/01, you wrote:
>
> >You have to learn all about your capacitance meter, just like you ESR
meter,
> >If you have a 5year old unit and the 100mfd cap read 110mfd  suspect that
> >its bad.  If a cap seems to go up in value and its a old cap I change it
and
> >it also has  repaired alot of sets.  Atleast that how my Protek CM108
works.
> >I found this out the hard way.
> >
> >Phillip R Hull
> >phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jay" <jhk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:31 AM
> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Zenith SM2568S (9-1407) small horiz red band at
> >top
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >     Years ago when I thought I had enough tools to fix any tv this
> > > happened. I was working on a dead set. I took out a cap and tested it
. My
> > > capacitor meter said it was right on the money. I checked it for
leakage
> >it
> > > was ok so I put it back in the set and started looking elsewhere for
the
> > > problem. After a hour or so I decided to take a break. The tech next
to me
> > > said can I take a look at it? He went to the first cap that I
suspected
> >and
> > > tested it with his esr meter popped another new one in and turned on
the
> > > set. All the while he had a little smirk on his face.  Later that day
he
> > > helped me fix two vcr power supplies that I thought I had checked
every
> >cap
> > > in and I was ready to give up on. In no time they were fixed.
Needless to
> > > say the next day I had a esr meter on order. It has helped me make
> > > thousands over the years quickly.  For what this is worth to you all .
> >Jay
> > >
> > > At 06:53 PM 10/31/01, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Richard,
> > > >
> > > >As ESR meter, ANY ESR meter, is not more accurate and is not a
substitute
> > > >for a capacitor meter.  You need both.  An ESR meter can quickly
check a
> > > >cap in circuit, but doesn't guarantee the cap is good, just as a cap
> > > >measuring within tolerance on a cap checker doesn't necessarily mean
it
> > > >is good.  Both instruments should be used along with your knowledge
of
> > > >the circuits involved.  In fact, both could indicate a cap to be
"good,"
> > > >but if it shows signs of leakage, it needs replaced.  All test
equipment
> > > >has its limitations.  We learn them through experience.
> > > >
> > > >I never used an ESR meter until I bought one about a year ago.  I
love
> > > >mine, but am not sure I would do as Phil.  Probably have my Fluke in
my
> > > >other arm.  My wife has legs, too.
> > > >
> > > >As to where to buy the Dick Smith, there was a post earlier today on
> > > >where to buy.  I'll paste it below.
> > > >
> > > >Dick Smith Electronics ESR and Low Ohms meter kit K7204 is available
from
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >http://www.dse.co.nz/  for NZ$78  which is approximately US$50.
> > > >
> > > >Hope this helps,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Ken Smith
> > > >Gulf Technical Services
> > > >3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > > >Gulf Breeze, FL  32561
> > > >850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> > > >
> > > >-----------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:11:22 -0800 "RICHARD AKPIRI"
> > > ><uwakpolo@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HI JEFF, HOW DO I GO ABOUT BUYING ONE OF THIS 'ESR METER'? I
> > > > > PRSENTLY HAVE A
> > > > > CAP TESTER AND IT SEEMS ESR METER IS REALY WAY TO GO AND MORE
> > > > > ACCURATE.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Jeff Dougherty" >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To:
> > > > > >Subject:
> > > > > [TechAssist] Re: Zenith SM2568S (9-1407) small horiz red band at
top
> > > > > >Date:
> > > > > Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:23:13 -0500 >>>Now..that was funny, Phil. >I
> > > > > know what
> > > > > you mean, I love the Dick Smith meter. >I will give that, and
Jeff's
> > > > > suggestion a shot. >>Jeff >>mailto:Jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > www.9-11-2001tragedy.com >Help those affected by the NY/PA
tragedy:
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> > > > > www.thetoolcaddy.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Phil
> > > > > Bader" >To:
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:28 AM >Subject: [TechAssist]
Re:
> > > > > Zenith
> > > > > SM2568S (9-1407) small horiz red band at >top >>>>>>Always,always
> > > > > ESR those
> > > > > blue caps in these Zeniths..Causes a multitude >>of strange
> > > > > symptoms. The
> > > > > other day I had a Zenith with 14 caps bad. I >>just kept ESR'ing
and
> > > > > replacing,as the picture got better and better.My >>Dick-Smith ESR
> > > > > meter is
> > > > > amust.It would be near impossible to zip from >>one cap to the
other
> > > > > without
> > > > > it. If I was running from a burning >>building the Dick Smith
would
> > > > > be under
> > > > > my arm! (Wife under the other!) >>>>Jeff Dougherty wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>Initial
> > > > > problem was blown fuse, shorted ICX3431(STR53041) and shorted
> > > > > >>>Q3431(121-1264-01) >>>Also, C3432 high ESR, CX3003 decr value.
> > > > > >>>Now I
> > > > > have a red horizontal band, top of screen about 2" high. >>>Any
help
> > > > > on this
> > > > > one? >>>Thanks. >>>>>>Jeff >>>>>>mailto:Jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > www.9-11-2001tragedy.com >>>Help those affected by the NY/PA
> > > > > tragedy: >>>The
> > > > > Red Cross needs is mobilizing a national blood drive and needs
your
> > > > > >>>help.
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> > > > > >>>donate
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> > > > > >>>Harrisburg,
> > > > > PA17111 >>>717-909-8844 >>>www.intrepid-video.com
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