[TechAssist] Re: Zenith PVY5265RK PTV 9-1690 Convergence Board

  • From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:15:44 -0500

Thanks Bob, but all this crap has been tested before I got with you guys,
plus both boards have been sent in, that's what makes this repair
weird....the fact that 99% of "No convergence adjustment" repairs have
already been checked/done....it's that 1% that I'm looking for....I really
was expecting the 9-1674 or the 9-1690 to fix it, but it didn't.

So the data lines are suspect, even tho' it shows data on pins 2 and 4 of
plug 8C3
(or 3C8 on the other end) as good. That pin 1 bothers me, a little since
there's 5V with a little negative-going pulse on it, looks like another data
line or maybe a read/write line to me....I access both the customer
alignment and the servicer's alignment and that line does not go LOW, and
obviously I'M ASSUMING 8C3 does not provide the grounding path to 9-1653
module (data lines terminate at this module and don't seem to go anywhere
else, so that is most likely the faulty part).

I need a good scope reading on 8C3 to verify proper voltages and
action/operation of those 4 wires......Does pin 1 stay at 5 VOLTS?? Does Pin
1 go hi/low when the service menu is activated?? Is there a slight
negative-going pulse on it??

Thanks,

Damon Brunger
Telrad Electronic Services
Ft Wayne, IN 46815
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gemini Computer & TV" <geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:44 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Zenith PVY5265RK PTV 9-1690 Convergence Board


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| Text pasted from WinSTIPS 2.0
| http://www.ServiceSoftware.com
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|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| 1 Ohm Resistors Smoke On Convergence Module
|
|
|
|   The 5a Pigtail Fuses On The Main Ps/Sweep Board May Be Open...Check
Them.
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| Convergence Bad
|
|
|
| R3243 110k & R3244 82k 1/2w Open On Smps 9-1674-01
|
| On The 9-1690 Convergence Board You May Have To Replace One Or Both Of The
| Convergence Ic'S, Depending On What Resistors Are Burnt.  Sometimes You
Can
| Just Replace The Resistors If Your Lucky.
|
| Ic4008 & Ic4009 Stk392-110   Convergence Amp.
| R4161, 62,63 & R1460 1ohm Resistor (Red & Blue)
| Replace Resistors In 9-1303-06 & -05  120k  1/2w Resistor
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| Convergence Bad / Green
|
| Phil Hull
|
| One Ohm Resistors Ok  -26v,  26v, 16v, To Convergence Board Ok.
| Found A Defective Ic 4009  Part# 223-51 On Convergence Board
Stk392-110
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| Convergence Bad, Then No Video With Lines Dipping From Top.
|
| Tv Traders, Inc.
|
| Replaced Convergence Module But Still No Video. Replace Open R3243, 110k
| Resistor On Power Supply. Also Check R3244,82k Per Zenith Tech.
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| Convergence Gone - Blows Stks
|
| Dick'S Tv - Sharon, Pa
|
| Ic4001, 2, Or 3 Can Cause Repeat Failure Of The Output Ics. Before
Replacing
| Stks, & After Replacing The 1 Ohm Resistors, Check For Dc Volts On Pins 6,
| 14, & 15 Of The Stk. If Any, There'S A Bad Driver Ic.
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| Convergence Porblems Will Not Adjust From User Menu
|
| Jeff Stielau : 6/1/00 : Shoreline Electronics
|
| Change Both Stk392-110 & The Four 1 Ohm Resistors. Resolder The 5v
Regulator
| Ic'S On The Same Heatsink. The 5a Pigtail Fuses On The Main Ps/Sweep Board
| May Be Open...Check Them.
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| Convergence Very Bad, Won'T Adjust.
|
| Ford'S Tv & Video Service
|
| Open Resistors, R4160, R4161 (1 Ohm 1/2w) And Defective Convergence Ic4008
| (Stk392-110). Also Check For Shorted Diode On 26 V Line, Cr3419
| (103-360-02), & Open Fuse, Fx3460 On 9-1674 (Sweep)
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| Convergence Very Bad, Won'T Adjust.
|
| Ford'S Tv & Video Service
|
| Open Resistors, R4162, R4163 (1 Ohm 1/2w) And Defective Convergence Ic4009
| (Stk392-110). Also Check For Shorted Diode On 26 V Line, Cr3419
| (103-360-02), & Open Fuse, Fx3460 On 9-1674 (Sweep)
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| Convergence Way Off - Picture Bowed Top And Bottom.
|
| Garris Tv - New Bern, Nc.
|
| Look For Open R3243 110k Resistor Under The Large Blue 5w Power Resistor
In
| Front Of The Hot. (Hard To Locate) Very Commonly Fail, Believe Zenith May
| Have Gotten A Bad Batch Of 110k Resistors When These Sets Were Built.
Other
| Shops Have Seen This Same Resistor Go "Thermally" Bad Also Confirming This
| Common Complaint!
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| ZENITH   9-1690
|
| Module Compatibility
|
| Adams Tv
|
| Zenith Supplies 9-1690r, There Are Different Versions Of These Modules
With
| Cables Soldered In Or With Plug In Sockets, If Prob, Switch The Cables
With
| The Original Board.
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28
| Master Technician License #9109
| Service Manager / Parts Manager
| Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms
| (508)695-7302
| (508)695-7769 FAX
| geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxx
| geminitv@xxxxxxx
| www.geminicomputertvsecurityalarms.com
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:19 AM
| Subject: [TechAssist] Zenith PVY5265RK PTV 9-1690 Convergence Board
|
|
| > Hello,
| >
| > I've been workin on getting the convergence circuits to operate, the
cross
| > hairs don't move, I can access the convergence alignments, but changing
| > their values don't do anything.....both the 9-1690 and the 9-1674 have
| been
| > sent to the rebuilders....but still no convergence, so only 1 more thing
| to
| > check, and that's the digital data lines on connector 83C.....that's why
I
| > need you folks to help. ANYBODY PRESENTLY WORKING ON A ZENITH PTV WITH A
| > 9-1690 CONVERGENCE MODULE, would you please verify with a scope what you
| > see, please????
| >
| > This is what I see:
| >
| > 83C pin 1 (black wire)  5Volts with a very tiny negative-going pulse
| (about
| > 0.2v max)
| >         pin2                        Data, good 5v pp
| >         pin3                        5V
| >         pin4                        Data (or clock) good 5v pp
| >
| > I think pin 1 is not right, but I can't verify since Zenith techs are on
| > Hurricane leave, any help would be deeply appreciated.
| >
| > Thanks
| > Damon Brunger
| > Telrad Electronic Services
| > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
| >
| >
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