Have you checked the CRT for proper color tracking balance? Country TV Ron Miller Inez, TX. 77968 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Technotronic Dimensions" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > Willie: > > Got it, thanks once again. Where is a Good place to ground my > DMM to measure that IC ? So far everywhere I read from, I get strange > Readings. > Still cannot eliminate RED from the Picture totally. I have all 3 Pots > Turned down, and the Color Settings in the Menu turned down, but I have a > RED Tinted Pix, not black and White. Both the Caps for that Regulator are > ok. > > Steve Hearns > Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > 1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Willie Hunter" <williehunter2@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:04 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > Steve, I sent you the power supply PDF to ypur mailbox. > Willie. > Hunter TV > Detroit,Mich. > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > >Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:02:05 -0500 > > > >Willie: > > > > Yes, just now. They all read the Same DC wise, about 4.9V Or > >so. The IC Itself seems unusually HOT though. Cooling it With Freeze didnt > >change anything though. I cant see what the Main V. Reg IC is suppose to be > >(ICX3431) - but here are the Voltages on it: > > > >Pin 1) -117VDC > >Pin 2) -75VDC > >Pin 3) +75VDC > >Pin 4) -75VDC > >Pin 5) -110VDC (Makes Oscillation when Meter probe Touches it) > > > >I have no idea what kind of STR this one is. Just about all the IC's on > >this > >Chassis seem to be running hotter than usual - so I thought maybe their VCC > >was higher (or lower) than usual Possibly from the STR? > > > >Steve Hearns > >Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > >WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > >1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Willie Hunter" <williehunter2@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:13 PM > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > >Steve, did you check pins 18,19 and 20? > > > > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > >Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 12:24:10 -0500 > > > > > >Hi Willie: > > > > > > Yes, I did thanks. It looks like you sent me a lot of > > >what that 9V Regulator is feeding. Also, you have the White Level > > >Compression / Amp there too, which is supplied by this same Reg. There is > >a > > >Pot on that area - is it R2298 or R2295? I have an R2298 on the Main > >board > > >right near Q2214, and I think this is it? If I turn it, it alters the RED > > >Just a bit, almost luminently....so I think that is working, at least > > >somewhat....? It behaved the same before the Regulator Change. Also, if I > > >short the SETUP Pins on the CRT PCB, the Picture seems to DIM , and thats > > >about all. Not sure if thats correct? > > > > > >Steve Hearns > > >Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > > >WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > > >1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Willie Hunter" <williehunter2@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:08 PM > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > >Steve, did you get the PDF file I sent to your mailbox? > > >Willie. > > >Hunter TV > > >Detroit,Mich. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > >Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:58:14 -0500 > > > > > > > >Sorry George- Was a Typo. I meant LM7809 was the original . > > > > > > > >Steve Hearns > > > >Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > > > >WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > > > >1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "George" <grndmstrg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 3:32 AM > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > >Hold the phone!!!! LM7909 is a negative voltage regulator (-9v) while > > >7808 > > > >is a positive (+8v) regulator. You might try a 7908 for testing. > > > > > > > >George > > > >Afana Electronics > > > >Moreno Valley, CA > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 8:13 PM > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > Making Progress....I think? > > > > > > > > > > I resoldered the Flyback just for the Heck of it. Then I went > > > > > in and was gonna resolder that V.Reg IC with the Heat Sink on it > >which > > > >was > > > > > Overheating on the Main board. I think its IC4121. It just came > >apart > > > >when > > > >I > > > > > touched it - the leeds just broke near the Case. Its an LM7909 , and > >I > > > >had > > > >a > > > > > 7808 Laying around here, so I threw that in with a bigger heat sink > > > >salvaged > > > > > from an Old Monitor Chassis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fired it up with the regular heaters, and I must say > > >the > > > > > Picture is looking better. Its less Grainy, but I still have too > >much > > > >red. > > > > > Its Just enough to prevent the color WHITE from being produced in > >the > > > >mix. > > > >I > > > > > shut down, then redid the Wrap on the FBT as Promised. This Time I > > > >measured > > > > > the Original Heater was 4.2VAC , and I made enough turns duplicating > > > >around > > > > > 3.9-4VAC on the FBT Core gimmick. When I Powered using that, I dont > > > >really > > > > > see much a Difference. The Red is still prominent, and reducing the > > >POT > > > >does > > > > > not eliminate it totally. Could I have an unsalvagable CRT? Or could > >a > > > >Spark > > > > > Gap or other Component on the CRT PCB cause this? Maybe a bad CRT > > > >Socket? > > > > > > > > > > Also, could perhaps that V.REG IC have damaged other items on the > >Main > > > > > Board Like an IC relating to color? Or Could I have a Bad Cap on > >that > > > > > causing the problem? The IC does > > > > > not get as hot with the New Heat Sink, but still quite hot & did > >not > > > > > measure the Voltages > > > > > on it. Everything looks fine, Except there is no White....its pink, > > >even > > > >the > > > > > Snow. > > > > > > > > > > Willie Hunter Sent me a Print of the CRT PCB - but do not have the > > > >Chassis > > > > > Print, nor do I think its in the archives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: If it is the CRT, is there a way to "ZAP" that Red Gun somehow > >to > > > >try > > > >to > > > > > eliminate the Dirt or Junk From it? I rarely get into CRT problems > >too > > > >much, > > > > > so am not sure if junk on a Gun causes that Color to be more > > >prominent? > > > >I > > > > > read somewhere along time ago, someone took a 1 Ohm Resistor, and > > >jumped > > > >I > > > > > think it to G2 and the suspected Gun some way or another, and was > >able > > > >to > > > > > clear a fault....? The Resistor Opens up , but not before some extra > > > >juice > > > > > was able to dislodge the Debris...at least thats how I remember it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Hearns > > > > > Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > > > > > WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > > > > > 1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:43 AM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > Try different number of wraps around the fly to achieve the proper > > > >voltage. > > > > > > > > > > Jeff Dougherty > > > > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > > > > 263 S Front St > > > > > Steelton PA 17113 > > > > > fax...717-564-4952 > > > > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Technotronic Dimensions" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 10:51 PM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Willie: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I had done that before , and still had a problem > > >with > > > >the > > > > > Pix.....although a different one. What threw me off was when I > >hooked > > > >the > > > > > normal Heaters back up, and measured the Voltage on my 4-5 Turns of > > >Wire > > > >on > > > > > the FBt core, I had lost it....it was less than 1VAC. Thats when I > > > >started > > > > > doubting the Flyback. I guess I will Rewind it again, and measure > >it. > > >It > > > >was > > > > > awfully strange. > > > > > > > > > > Steve Hearns > > > > > Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > > > > > WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > > > > > 1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Willie Hunter" <williehunter2@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:29 PM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing is wrong with the G2 Voltage.what you have is a bad > > > >tube.Isolating > > > > > the heaters from > > > > > the circuit and put about 3 or 4 of wire around the flyback core > >will > > > >act > > > >as > > > > > a booster. > > > > > but the filament has to be totally disconnected from the rest of the > > > > > circuit. > > > > > Willie. > > > > > Hunter tv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > >Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:12:45 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Bob: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the Tip. I now believe the FBT is for > >the > > > >Most > > > > > >part OK. the Focus becomes sort of "tight" near the final 80-90% of > > >the > > > > > >Rotation of the Control when turning it, but have seen this before > >on > > > >other > > > > > >Sets, so I think its ok. The Screen seems sort of Weak, as it too > > > >needs > > > >to > > > > > >be near 80-90% of Maximum for it to have a Decent level, but for > >the > > > >most > > > > > >part Acceptable.....unless this is a 'weak' flyback? Would not too > > >the > > > >HV > > > > > >be > > > > > >lower than usual, and could that explain why I have NO white at > >all? > > >I > > > >have > > > > > >no HV Proba (yet) , and I posted in another message my G2 I believe > > >is > > > > > >394VDC....its the Grey Wire from the Flyback, not the Red Focus > >wire. > > >I > > > > > >dont > > > > > >do too many Repairs on sets which require extensive Voltage > > > >measurements, > > > > > >so > > > > > >excuse me if my references are not correct. I think the Grey is the > > >G2 > > > >but > > > > > >not sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > >Steve Hearns > > > > > >Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > > > > > >WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > > > > > >1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Bob@Bobs tv" <woodman1@xxxxxxxx> > > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > >Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 1:41 PM > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Steve, > > > > > > There are three pots on the CRT board R-B-G..That module > > >was > > > >used > > > > > >on Zenith's L-M line along with the A63/A68 picture tubes that > > > > > >failed...Another point a bad tube or spark gap in CRT socket can > > >cause > > > >the > > > > > >focus/screen controls to fail on the HOT.. > > > > > > > > > >Bob, > > > > > > > > > > > >Bobs TV Worcester, ma > > > > > > > > > > > >woodman1@xxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > >Main 508-853-1482 > > > > > >Fax 508-853-1480 > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:24 PM > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Wards /Zenith 9-1407 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Willie: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didnt see an option for RED or any color for that > > >matter > > > >in > > > > > >the > > > > > > > menu. I did notice that none of the color controls (IE :TINT) in > > >the > > > > > >menu > > > > > > > change the color at all - but the sliders move when you actuate > > > >them. > > > > > >Same > > > > > > > for Brightness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I rehooked up the Tap from the FBT to the heaters ust > >to > > > > > >compare, > > > > > > > and I had a sort of loud hissing noise like HV escaping > >somewhere > > > >near > > > > > >the > > > > > > > neck. The Pix looked more out of Focus, so I reattached the > >normal > > > > > >heaters > > > > > >, > > > > > > > but now my Tap which was putting out like 4.5V, now is putting > >out > > > >less > > > > > >than > > > > > > > 1 VAC. Could the Flyback have weakened during my test ? I notice > > >Now > > > >the > > > > > > > Focus Pot has to be near all the way CW to get decent Focus, and > > >so > > > >does > > > > > >the > > > > > > > Screen Control in order to get a fair Brightness. Flyback is a > > > >95-4372. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Hearns > > > > > > > Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > > > > > > > WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > > > > > > > 1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Willie Hunter" <williehunter2@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:45 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Wards Signature 2000 TV Model > > >MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Go to setup and adjust the red. > > > > > > > Willie. > > > > > > > Hunter TV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions" > > ><steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Wards Signature 2000 TV Model > > > >MWM2553Y > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:09:44 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Replaced Q5106, and tried wire around FBT core for heater. > > >Retrace > > > >was > > > > > > > >gone, > > > > > > > >color improved, but still Streaky and unbalanced. Found R5110 > > >open. > > > > > > > >Replaced, took off the heater boost , and put regular Heaters > > >back > > > >on. > > > > > > > >Color > > > > > > > >much better, balanced, no streaks, but too much red....hardly > > >any > > > >blue > > > > > >or > > > > > > > >Green. Replaced other 2 120K resistors for the other 2 Colors > > >like > > > > > >R5110 > > > > > > > >was > > > > > > > >for , still have too much red, and hardly any blue or green. Is > > > >this > > > >a > > > > > >Bad > > > > > > > >CRT ? Any way to determine it without a CRT checker / > > >Rejuvinator? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Steve Hearns > > > > > > > >Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > > > > > > > >WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > > > > > > > >1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions" > > ><steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >To: "Tech_Assist.ORG" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:41 PM > > > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Fw: Wards Signature 2000 TV Model > >MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Just Found a Sticker on the Chassis: 9-1407 and Q5106 Reading > >200 > > > >Ohms > > > > > >E-C > > > > > > > >Both ways. > > > > > > > >Going to replace it, and Winstips Says to Isolate the Heaters > > >with > > > >5 > > > > > >Turns > > > > > > > >around the FBT core with with 20 Ga. Wire. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I see this CRT is commonly bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Steve Hearns > > > > > > > >Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > > > > > > > >WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > > > > > > > >1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions" > > ><steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:08 PM > > > > > > > >Subject: Wards Signature 2000 TV Model MWM2553Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >| > > > > > > > >| Not Sure what chassis this is the Same as? It has a Zenith > >CRT > > > > > >A63ADG31X > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > >| with ZENITH Stamped in the rubber FBT Anode Cup. Safe to say > > >its > > > >a > > > > > >Zenith > > > > > > > >| Chassis, but Which? 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