How about this one: Ya...A buddy of mine does....like....electical work. And he said it was probably just a loose modulator.!!! >From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Vertical or horizontal line >Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:13:30 -0500 > > >I'm sure its just a simple thing and wont cost much to fix! ( smoke is >still >coming out of it) >Jerry Silverman >Greentron Inc >4 Newland Ave >Greenville SC 29609 >864 232 3889 >Fax 271 2080 >mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jack" <lightwizard_2000@xxxxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:10 AM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Vertical or horizontal line > > > > > > "I think it just needs a cleaning..." > > > > "It has a loose wire..." > > > > "The power tube is shorted..." > > > > "It keeps blowing the fuse..." > > > > "I think the picture tube is bad, it has a line > > acrosss it..." > > > > "I think the switch is bad, it won't turn on..." > > > > How about these? Sound familiar...? > > > > Jack > > > > "When all else fails... Troubleshoot!" > > --- knitrngr65@xxxxxxx wrote: > > > Guys, > > > > > > I have to agree with Jeff. The phrase the fuse is > > > shorted! lmao! > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 1/15/02 5:32:53 PM US Mountain > > > Standard Time, > > > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > > > > > > > > My favorite is "The fuse is shorted". > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > Intrepid Video & Electronics > > > > 501 Luther Rd > > > > Harrisburg PA 17111 (FAX)1-413-280-0677 > > > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > www.thetoolcaddy.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > > > Of Bill McFarland > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:31 PM > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Vertical or horizontal > > > line > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. I know tech that have been doing this > > > longer then me and still > > > > don't get that right. > > > > I too have the same pet peeve. Drives me NUTS! > > > Another one is when > > > > people > > > > say > > > > "I think its got a short in it!" > > > > > > > > *snicker* > > > > > > > > Good luck, God Bless > > > > Bill McFarland > > > > DMC Electronics > > > > Salt Lake City, Utah > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <gulftech@xxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:11 AM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Vertical or horizontal > > > line > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amen! > > > > > > > > > > That is a pet peeve of mine. One of the techs > > > who used to work for me > > > > > called vertical collapse a "vertical line." It > > > would infuriate me. > > > > But, > > > > > like you said, we can't see the symptom in a > > > post. We can only go by > > > > the > > > > > information given. > > > > > > > > > > Some may be offended by Jack's post as too > > > simple and too obvious. > > > > Not > > > > > at all. Too much confusion is involved in this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken Smith > > > > > Gulf Technical Services > > > > > 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway > > > > > Gulf Breeze, FL 32561 > > > > > 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:18:02 -0800 Dennis > > > Viereck > > > > <wa6ati@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > writes: > > > > > > Geez! > > > > > > I'm glad someone said something. I have to > > > bite my fingers each > > > > > > time I read a post for a tech who tries to > > > describe the symptom by > > > > > > the name of the circuit. I do tech support > > > over the phone everyday > > > > > > and a day does not go by when I get a tech > > > that confuses these > > > > > > terms. > > > > > > Figure this one out, you guys that don't know > > > the difference! We, > > > > > > on the other side of the fence cannot see the > > > > > > symptom................. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dennis Viereck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jack wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vertical is up and down > > > > > > > Horizontal is left to right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A horizontal line = no vertical sweep > > > > > > > A vertical line = no horizontal sweep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is confusing to even the most > > > experienced techs > > > > > > > it seems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Premium Technologies > > > <premtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > I have merely a thin vertical line about > > > 1/4 (1/3) > > > > > > > > of the way down from the top of the > > > screen. I've > > > > > > > > previously replace u4501 and changed-out > > > r4511 on > > > > > > > > your recent tip. No change... > > > > > > > > I'll try resoldering the ground next, in > > > the tuner. > > > > > > > > I think my voltage is a bit high on pins 4 > > > and 5 of > > > > > > > > rn4501 (20v), but I don't believe that of > > > itself > > > > > > > > should collapse the vertical. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the help... > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > Premium Technologies > > > > > > > > Ocean Park, Washington > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: Webster TV > > > > > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:58 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: GE - > > > 31GT657FM1, Chassis > > > > > > > > CTC177CC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > > > Don't fully understand your problem. Do > > > you have > > > > > > > > vert. deflection and just > > > > > > > > have a line across screen or don't you > > > have vert. > > > > > > > > deflection and the vert. > > > > > > > > line is 1/4 of the way down screen > > > instead of > > > > > > > > across middle? Here's one tip > > > > > > > > on a CTC177 for a vert. line but line is > > > 1/3 of > > > > > > > > the way up screen. Defective > > > > > > > > U4501 and bad resister R4511(1ohm-2w)off > > > of pin 2 > > > > > > > > of U4501. Also a > > > > > > > > defective eprom caused by bad tuner > > > grounds can > > > > > > > > cause all kinds of problems, > > > > > > > > including vert. problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan Webster > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Webster's TV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shullsburg, Wi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: Premium Technologies > > > > > > > > <premtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:09 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] GE - 31GT657FM1, > > > Chassis > > > > > > > > CTC177CC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > > > > > charset="Windows-1252" > > > > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: > > > quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BlankGentlemen, > > > > > > > > > I'm having an elusive vertical problem > > > with the > > > > > > > > above described which is = > > > > > > > > > producing a horizontal line 1/4 of the > > > way down > > > > > > > > from the top of the = > > > > > > > > > screen. No schematic on this one, but > > > from past > > > > > > > > experience it seems my = > > > > > > > > > in voltage might be low on the > > > vertical > > > > > > > > deflector U4501. > > > > > > > > > I've replaced U4501, and about 8 of > > > caps in > > > > > > > > that circuit, (C-4502, = > > > > > > > > > 4108, 4107, 4506, 4505, 4705, 4112, > > > 4404) with > > > > > > > > no change in symptoms. = > > > > > > > > > My voltage readings on pin 1 and 2 of > > > U4501 are > > > > > > > > 13.4 and 24.7 = > > > > > > > > > respectively, and 23.0 on 5-Vout. > > > > > > > > > I've traced circuit for open shorts > > > with no > > > > > > > > luck, and quickly running = > > > > > > > > > out of patience. 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