[TechAssist] Re: Vertical or horizontal line
- From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:13:30 -0500
I'm sure its just a simple thing and wont cost much to fix! ( smoke is still
coming out of it)
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave
Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889
Fax 271 2080
mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <lightwizard_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Vertical or horizontal line
>
> "I think it just needs a cleaning..."
>
> "It has a loose wire..."
>
> "The power tube is shorted..."
>
> "It keeps blowing the fuse..."
>
> "I think the picture tube is bad, it has a line
> acrosss it..."
>
> "I think the switch is bad, it won't turn on..."
>
> How about these? Sound familiar...?
>
> Jack
>
> "When all else fails... Troubleshoot!"
> --- knitrngr65@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > I have to agree with Jeff. The phrase the fuse is
> > shorted! lmao!
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/15/02 5:32:53 PM US Mountain
> > Standard Time,
> > jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> >
> >
> > > My favorite is "The fuse is shorted".
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > Intrepid Video & Electronics
> > > 501 Luther Rd
> > > Harrisburg PA 17111 (FAX)1-413-280-0677
> > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> > www.thetoolcaddy.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Bill McFarland
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:31 PM
> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Vertical or horizontal
> > line
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree. I know tech that have been doing this
> > longer then me and still
> > > don't get that right.
> > > I too have the same pet peeve. Drives me NUTS!
> > Another one is when
> > > people
> > > say
> > > "I think its got a short in it!"
> > >
> > > *snicker*
> > >
> > > Good luck, God Bless
> > > Bill McFarland
> > > DMC Electronics
> > > Salt Lake City, Utah
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <gulftech@xxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:11 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Vertical or horizontal
> > line
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Amen!
> > > >
> > > > That is a pet peeve of mine. One of the techs
> > who used to work for me
> > > > called vertical collapse a "vertical line." It
> > would infuriate me.
> > > But,
> > > > like you said, we can't see the symptom in a
> > post. We can only go by
> > > the
> > > > information given.
> > > >
> > > > Some may be offended by Jack's post as too
> > simple and too obvious.
> > > Not
> > > > at all. Too much confusion is involved in this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ken Smith
> > > > Gulf Technical Services
> > > > 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > > > Gulf Breeze, FL 32561
> > > > 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:18:02 -0800 Dennis
> > Viereck
> > > <wa6ati@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > writes:
> > > > > Geez!
> > > > > I'm glad someone said something. I have to
> > bite my fingers each
> > > > > time I read a post for a tech who tries to
> > describe the symptom by
> > > > > the name of the circuit. I do tech support
> > over the phone everyday
> > > > > and a day does not go by when I get a tech
> > that confuses these
> > > > > terms.
> > > > > Figure this one out, you guys that don't know
> > the difference! We,
> > > > > on the other side of the fence cannot see the
> > > > > symptom.................
> > > > >
> > > > > Dennis Viereck
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jack wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Vertical is up and down
> > > > > > Horizontal is left to right
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A horizontal line = no vertical sweep
> > > > > > A vertical line = no horizontal sweep
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is confusing to even the most
> > experienced techs
> > > > > > it seems...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jack
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Premium Technologies
> > <premtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Dan,
> > > > > > > I have merely a thin vertical line about
> > 1/4 (1/3)
> > > > > > > of the way down from the top of the
> > screen. I've
> > > > > > > previously replace u4501 and changed-out
> > r4511 on
> > > > > > > your recent tip. No change...
> > > > > > > I'll try resoldering the ground next, in
> > the tuner.
> > > > > > > I think my voltage is a bit high on pins 4
> > and 5 of
> > > > > > > rn4501 (20v), but I don't believe that of
> > itself
> > > > > > > should collapse the vertical.
> > > > > > > Thanks for the help...
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > Premium Technologies
> > > > > > > Ocean Park, Washington
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Webster TV
> > > > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:58 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: GE -
> > 31GT657FM1, Chassis
> > > > > > > CTC177CC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill,
> > > > > > > Don't fully understand your problem. Do
> > you have
> > > > > > > vert. deflection and just
> > > > > > > have a line across screen or don't you
> > have vert.
> > > > > > > deflection and the vert.
> > > > > > > line is 1/4 of the way down screen
> > instead of
> > > > > > > across middle? Here's one tip
> > > > > > > on a CTC177 for a vert. line but line is
> > 1/3 of
> > > > > > > the way up screen. Defective
> > > > > > > U4501 and bad resister R4511(1ohm-2w)off
> > of pin 2
> > > > > > > of U4501. Also a
> > > > > > > defective eprom caused by bad tuner
> > grounds can
> > > > > > > cause all kinds of problems,
> > > > > > > including vert. problems.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan Webster
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Webster's TV
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shullsburg, Wi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Premium Technologies
> > > > > > > <premtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:09 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] GE - 31GT657FM1,
> > Chassis
> > > > > > > CTC177CC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > > > > > > > charset="Windows-1252"
> > > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding:
> > quoted-printable
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BlankGentlemen,
> > > > > > > > I'm having an elusive vertical problem
> > with the
> > > > > > > above described which is =
> > > > > > > > producing a horizontal line 1/4 of the
> > way down
> > > > > > > from the top of the =
> > > > > > > > screen. No schematic on this one, but
> > from past
> > > > > > > experience it seems my =
> > > > > > > > in voltage might be low on the
> > vertical
> > > > > > > deflector U4501.
> > > > > > > > I've replaced U4501, and about 8 of
> > caps in
> > > > > > > that circuit, (C-4502, =
> > > > > > > > 4108, 4107, 4506, 4505, 4705, 4112,
> > 4404) with
> > > > > > > no change in symptoms. =
> > > > > > > > My voltage readings on pin 1 and 2 of
> > U4501 are
> > > > > > > 13.4 and 24.7 =
> > > > > > > > respectively, and 23.0 on 5-Vout.
> > > > > > > > I've traced circuit for open shorts
> > with no
> > > > > > > luck, and quickly running =
> > > > > > > > out of patience. Any help would be
> > > > > > > appreciated...
> > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > Premium Technologies
> > > > > > > > Ocean Park, Washington
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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