[TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
- From: Kevin <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:09:04 -0800
They most likely counteract a higher infant mortality rate by having
more children. Playing the odds.
Kevin Wilks
Kevin's TV & Video Repair
Penticton BC Canada
kevintv@xxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Keller
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:52 AM
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
They can't have too much infant mortality, or any mortality, seeing as
how 1/4 of the worlds' entire population is in China.
Doug Keller
Wis-Kel Electronics
101 Freeland Ave.
Terra Alta, WV
USA 26764
dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.tech-assist.org
"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
Philip Bader wrote:
>Not to get too political, but we all know that China is an ecological
>disaster. Factories and other business spewing it's toxic bilge
directly
>into all the rivers untreated. Unincumbered by civilized governmental
>EPA "red tape"( no pun intended).
>If we had the ability to throw out all out trash and waste and
>pollutants in the streets and rivers where the towns people bathe,
wash,
>drink, our overhead would be lower, too. And we would start having
>infant mortalities similar to theirs.
>I guess as a nation we can turn out heads, as long as Walmart can get
>cheap electronics...
>N.I.M.B.Y. as it were.
>Phil
>
>Ed Gaidies wrote:
>
>
>>Walt;
>> They are not being paid $27 and hour, 3 weeks paid vacation,
and
>>production bonuses. I would be surprised if their take-home is more
then
>>30 to 35 bucks a week.
>>
>>-Ed-
>>
>>Ed Gaidies
>>Tel-Tek Electronics.
>>Ontario-Canada
>>
>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of walter wood
>>Sent: December 17, 2003 10:42 AM
>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>
>>Having worked in electronic manufacturing, I can
>>assure you that the Chinese are assembling these
>>products the same way as everyone else, by machine.
>>How else would SMD parts be placed?
>>The grunt labor is in parts, QA(if any
>>exists),testing, packing, and shipping.
>>That being the case, how is there such a huge
>>difference in the manufacturing cost, especially
>>considering that the finished product is shipped
>>halfway across the world.??
>>I can't believe that a huge difference exists, the
>>Chinese are "dumping", pure and simple.
>>I had a conversation with a high placed exec. with
>>a ball bearing plant around here.
>>They had the same problem, as most of their
>>operation here was automated.
>>Still, the Japanese undercut them.
>>The company went to federal court and got some
>>action to stop the Japanese.
>>Later when they tried to stop the Chinese, they
>>were ruled aganist.
>>Consequently, the plant here is close to closing.
>>There has got to be other things going on here.
>>Well, the Chinese restaurants are already here.
>>Plenty of them.
>>In this town alone there are 4 Chinese/orential ,
>>and only 2 Mexican, and 2 Italian.
>>Guess we better learn to like it.
>>Walter
>>
>>
>>--- Kevin <kevintv@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Does this mean that the circuit boards are
>>>manufactured by hand in China
>>>or do they use robotics to assemble the boards?
>>>I know the Chinese use
>>>much more hand labor to build roads etc., than we
>>>do here in North
>>>America. We are big on equipment, they are big
>>>on labor.
>>>
>>>Kevin Wilks
>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
>>>Penticton BC Canada
>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>Behalf Of Jorge Camboni
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:56 PM
>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>
>>>
>>>You're right, Keith, behind all this scene you
>>>find all those chinese
>>>workers earning $6 a day (that is the mean
>>>salary). And it also applies
>>>to Indonesia or India or any of the poor and
>>>overpopulated countries in
>>>the world (not only Asia) that all of a sudden
>>>aquire a blazing
>>>popularity
>>>within the manufacturing industry because of the
>>>super-low salaries and
>>>almost-no-taxes. Nearly starving people are
>>>willing to work for peanuts.
>>>Millions of jobs are being lost WORLDWIDE, not
>>>only in USA and Canada,
>>>and the vast majority of those jobs went to
>>>China. In South America,
>>>for instance, Philips closed most of their
>>>factories and move them to
>>>China several years ago, along with other
>>>european major brands.
>>>People who decided those big moves may be
>>>european, american,
>>>chinese, korean, japanese or canadian... It does
>>>not matter, they're
>>>after the big profit. Of course, in the long run
>>>salaries salaries start
>>>to climb and costs starts to rise (look at Japan,
>>>Korea and Taiwan, for
>>>instance)
>>>and the big companies start to look for another
>>>place to move to..
>>>On the long run, those huge markets will grow and
>>>start to buy whatever
>>>they
>>>need from the rest of the world (us).
>>>I see no solutions at this moment, I think we
>>>MUST begin by analyzing
>>>in-depth
>>>how and why those things are hapenning, in order
>>>to be able to
>>>correct whatever is possible to correct on the
>>>medium and long run.
>>>There is a vey interesting book named "The
>>>information age" (3 volumes,
>>>beginning by "The rise of the network society")
>>>by Manuel Castells, from
>>>this
>>>books we can pick up several clues in order to
>>>understand the actual
>>>word's trends (haven't finished reading it myself
>>>:o)))..
>>>just my 1 1/2 cents
>>>Jorge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 09:07 a.m. 16/12/03 -0600, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Just one problem ED, Thomson wasn't forced to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>sell out. The Chinese
>>>were
>>>
>>>
>>>>given an opportunity that they jumped on. The
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Asians haven't stole
>>>anything
>>>
>>>
>>>>that we haven't first given up. Thomson decided
>>>>
>>>>
>>>to give up those 1200
>>>jobs,
>>>
>>>
>>>>they are the ones that didn't give a crap about
>>>>
>>>>
>>>those families. I agree
>>>with
>>>
>>>
>>>>you on all of your other points, but most of us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>also want those $9.00
>>>
>>>
>>>>Wal-mart shirts made in Bangladesh as opposed to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>US made product at
>>>double
>>>
>>>
>>>>the price. If no body bought it, the product AND
>>>>
>>>>
>>>it's MANUFACTURER
>>>would not
>>>
>>>
>>>>exist.
>>>>Keith Trumbla
>>>>BEM Electronics Inc.
>>>>Suite 212-530 Century St.
>>>>WPG. MB. R3H 0Y4 Canada
>>>>Ph.204.775.2875 Fax.204.774.9192
>>>>www.bemelectronics.com
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics"
>>>>
>>>>
>>><teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:25 AM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thomson in US eliminated 1200 jobs, which
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>went to China. That's 1200
>>>
>>>
>>>>>people, and families which quite likely will
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>go unto some form of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Government assistance. I don't think that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>there is any way of
>>>turning
>>>
>>>
>>>>>this around. Unless some branch of government
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>gets involved. May
>>>have to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>sidestep some patent right, open a few large
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>factories to
>>>manufacture
>>>
>>>
>>>>>this stuff, pay the workers a "reasonable"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>wage, keep the unions
>>>out.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Market the product for Homeland consumption.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Give a proper Warranty,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>have spare parts available. Sell at slightly
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>more than cost of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>production. This gives jobs to those that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>want them, and stimulates
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>economy. Maybe use the billions we spend
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>overseas, helping
>>>countries,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>that really don't want our help, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>revitalize our own interests
>>>for a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>change.
>>>>>I realize this sounds over simplistic. But I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>would rather own
>>>
>>>
>>>>>one "good" VCR, and pay $300 for it, then
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>have 3 Orion's at $69 in
>>>my
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Wall Unit, so I have 2 backups.
>>>>>Think of the joy of picking up the phone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>calling the Parts
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Department, or Service Department, and some
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>one saying, How ya all
>>>doing
>>>
>>>
>>>>>this morning"..that in itself would be worth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>the extra money.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Behalf Of Doug Keller
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:00 AM
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>
>>>>>Or they will just absorb and take us over the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>way they have our
>>>
>>>
>>>>>manufacturing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Doug Keller
>>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>>>>Terra Alta, WV
>>>>>USA 26764
>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>
>>>>>won't live long enough to make them all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>yourself"
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't understand why someone, wiser then
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>us guys, can not see the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>shifting trend of All electronics being
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>manufactured by the Asians.
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>wonder how much of our defense equipment,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>including missile
>>>tracking,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>satellite technology, CRT and LCD displays
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>in our tanks and
>>>fighting
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>vehicles, Night Vision technology, etc,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>depends on parts from
>>>China,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Korea and other Asian countries. How will we
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>get news updates from
>>>CNN,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>if we can't get parts for our
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>NEC's...Goldstars...Sanyo's...Daewoos...Orions...and
>>>now RCA and GE
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>TV's. How much of our Electrical grid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>depends on monitoring systems
>>>
>>>
>>>>>made
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>in China and the likes. If we continue to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>depend on technology from
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>outside North America, we better not "pixx"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>these countries off. Or
>>>we
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>will find many things on Backorder in the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>future.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>Behalf Of walter wood
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:49 AM
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Seems to me that Goldstar was the CRT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>supplier when
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Zenith was having such a bad time of it with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>"soft short" taking out all the main boards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>the sets being "Not worth fixing".
>>>>>>That was pretty much all the '90's.
>>>>>>I never could figure out why Zenith didn't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>find
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>another CRT supplier.
>>>>>>I guess that was a way to tear zenith down
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>so
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Goldstar could buy them.
>>>>>>Walter
>>>>>>--- Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>><teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When they became LG Electronics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>>>Behalf Of Kevin
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:49 PM
>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When did Korea (Goldstar) take over control
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>Zenith?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kevin Wilks
>>>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
>>>>>>>Penticton BC Canada
>>>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:10 PM
>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Actually rca and ge tvs as we knew them
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>have not
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>existed since about
>>>>>>>1989,
>>>>>>>the story goes like this, ge bought rca,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>which
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>owned nbc, banquet foods,
>>>>>>>burlington mills, hertz rent a car,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>hazeltine
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>research, sarnoff labs,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>randomhouse publishing, and last but not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>least
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>their consumer
>>>>>>>electronics
>>>>>>>company, this was at the time the largest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>non oil
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>buyout ever,ge started
>>>>>>>selling what it did not want(everything
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>except
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>nbc), and then made an
>>>>>>>offer
>>>>>>>to thomson of france, to swap their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>combined
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>consumer electronics
>>>>>>>company
>>>>>>>for thomson's medical equipment division,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>seems
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>as though ge really
>>>>>>>started
>>>>>>>thomson, then the french nationalized it,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>now it
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>appears that the french
>>>>>>>have decided to take advantage of the "so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>called
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>global economy" and buy
>>>>>>>into the chinese producers so they can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>sell fine
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>products along with
>>>>>>>funai
>>>>>>>and apex etc, pretty sad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>charles betzler
>>>>>>>Best Electronics
>>>>>>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:36 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's all over now,....but the cryin !
>>>>>>>>We can't get by without RCA/GE sets,...and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>we
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>don't want China to be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>involved to anymore degree then they
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>allready
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>are in our Industry.
>>>>>>>When
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Korea took over control of Zenith by
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Goldstar,...that's when Zenith
>>>>>>>went
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the dogs,...and now we will see that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>happen
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>with RCA (Radio
>>>>>>>Corporation of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>America),..what a laugh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>LLW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>I've
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>heard it said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>93 North Main
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>"that
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a fool never learns"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 It kinda
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>reminds
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>me of me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>>>>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:17 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But the Chinese have control, and it is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>expected
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>that they will have full ownership in 6
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>months
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>so.
>>>>>>>>>One of Thomson's tech support guys told
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>me
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>that he
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>was going to work at Home Depot, and is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>expecting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>everyone to be laid off in that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>department.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>He said that people were dissappearing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>around
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>there
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>every day.
>>>>>>>>>Oh well, rca couldn't get much worse than
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>ATC311.
>>>>>>>>>Walter
>>>>>>>>>--- "Phillip R. Hull"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>><phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Its 2/3 s Owned by a Co. in China.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>That
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>what was said at a RCA meeting
>>>>>>>>>>a couple of weeks ago.
>>>>>>>>>>Phillip R Hull STET
>>>>>>>>>>phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>FAX 517--569-3075
>>>>>>>>>>Professional Technicians only
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics"
>>>>>>>>>><teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Some conglomerate from France...me
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>thinks.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Keith Trumbla
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:52 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Who owns Thomson now ?
>>>>>>>>>>>Keith Trumbla
>>>>>>>>>>>BEM Electronics Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>Suite 212-530 Century St.
>>>>>>>>>>>WPG. MB. R3H 0Y4 Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>Ph.204.775.2875 Fax.204.774.9192
>>>>>>>>>>>www.bemelectronics.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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