Uh---Ed--France is socialist---and they have 18% unemployment, not to mention 15,000 dead old people because nurses and doctors are only allowed to work 40 hours a week--or get thrown in jail. You might call that having good jobs--I call it patricide. TV Doctor Avalon, Wi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:20 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > Socialism is a label. Lets call it good jobs for good pay, compared to > no jobs,and on Social assistance. As I said, no easy answer for this > one. > > -Ed- > > Ed Gaidies > Tel-Tek Electronics > Ontario-Canada > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff F > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:47 PM > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > > If you want to keep more jobe in this country--you need to eliminate the > massive intrusive regulation---the layer upon layer of taxation--and > many > more anti-buisness laws, rules and regulations. Im sorry--but what Ed > is > espousing sounds like socialism--no thanks > > TV Doctor > Avalon, Wi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:53 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > > > > Ed for president!!!!!!!!!! (or governor of California) > > > > Doug Keller > > Wis-Kel Electronics > > 101 Freeland Ave. > > Terra Alta, WV > > USA 26764 > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.tech-assist.org > > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > > won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics wrote: > > > > >Thomson in US eliminated 1200 jobs, which went to China. That's 1200 > > >people, and families which quite likely will go unto some form of > > >Government assistance. I don't think that there is any way of turning > > >this around. Unless some branch of government gets involved. May have > to > > >sidestep some patent right, open a few large factories to manufacture > > >this stuff, pay the workers a "reasonable" wage, keep the unions out. > > >Market the product for Homeland consumption. Give a proper Warranty, > > >have spare parts available. Sell at slightly more than cost of > > >production. This gives jobs to those that want them, and stimulates > the > > >economy. Maybe use the billions we spend overseas, helping countries, > > >that really don't want our help, and revitalize our own interests for > a > > >change. > > > I realize this sounds over simplistic. But I would rather own > > >one "good" VCR, and pay $300 for it, then have 3 Orion's at $69 in my > > >Wall Unit, so I have 2 backups. > > > Think of the joy of picking up the phone, calling the Parts > > >Department, or Service Department, and some one saying, How ya all > doing > > >this morning"..that in itself would be worth the extra money. > > > > > >-Ed- > > > > > >Ed Gaidies > > >Tel-Tek Electronics > > >Ontario-Canada > > > > > >teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Keller > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:00 AM > > >To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > > > > > >Or they will just absorb and take us over the way they have our > > >manufacturing. > > > > > >Doug Keller > > >Wis-Kel Electronics > > >101 Freeland Ave. > > >Terra Alta, WV > > >USA 26764 > > >dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >http://www.tech-assist.org > > >"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > > >won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > > > > > > > > > > >Tel-Tek Electronics wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>I can't understand why someone, wiser then us guys, can not see the > > >>shifting trend of All electronics being manufactured by the Asians. > I > > >>wonder how much of our defense equipment, including missile > tracking, > > >>satellite technology, CRT and LCD displays in our tanks and fighting > > >>vehicles, Night Vision technology, etc, depends on parts from China, > > >>Korea and other Asian countries. How will we get news updates from > CNN, > > >>if we can't get parts for our > > >>NEC's...Goldstars...Sanyo's...Daewoos...Orions...and now RCA and GE > > >>TV's. How much of our Electrical grid depends on monitoring systems > > >> > > >> > > >made > > > > > > > > >>in China and the likes. If we continue to depend on technology from > > >>outside North America, we better not "pixx" these countries off. Or > we > > >>will find many things on Backorder in the future. > > >> > > >>-Ed- > > >> > > >>Ed Gaidies > > >>Tel-Tek Electronics > > >>Ontario-Canada > > >> > > >>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of walter wood > > >>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:49 AM > > >>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > > >> > > >>Seems to me that Goldstar was the CRT supplier when > > >>Zenith was having such a bad time of it with the > > >>"soft short" taking out all the main boards, and > > >>the sets being "Not worth fixing". > > >>That was pretty much all the '90's. > > >>I never could figure out why Zenith didn't find > > >>another CRT supplier. > > >>I guess that was a way to tear zenith down so > > >>Goldstar could buy them. > > >>Walter > > >>--- Tel-Tek Electronics <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>When they became LG Electronics. > > >>> > > >>>-Ed- > > >>> > > >>>Ed Gaidies > > >>>Tel-Tek Electronics > > >>>Ontario-Canada > > >>> > > >>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> > > >>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > >>>Behalf Of Kevin > > >>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:49 PM > > >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > > >>> > > >>>When did Korea (Goldstar) take over control of > > >>>Zenith? > > >>> > > >>>Kevin Wilks > > >>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair > > >>>Penticton BC Canada > > >>>kevintv@xxxxxxx > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > >>>Behalf Of > > >>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:10 PM > > >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > > >>> > > >>>Actually rca and ge tvs as we knew them have not > > >>>existed since about > > >>>1989, > > >>>the story goes like this, ge bought rca, which > > >>>owned nbc, banquet foods, > > >>>burlington mills, hertz rent a car, hazeltine > > >>>research, sarnoff labs, > > >>>and > > >>>randomhouse publishing, and last but not least > > >>>their consumer > > >>>electronics > > >>>company, this was at the time the largest non oil > > >>>buyout ever,ge started > > >>>selling what it did not want(everything except > > >>>nbc), and then made an > > >>>offer > > >>>to thomson of france, to swap their combined > > >>>consumer electronics > > >>>company > > >>>for thomson's medical equipment division, seems > > >>>as though ge really > > >>>started > > >>>thomson, then the french nationalized it, now it > > >>>appears that the french > > >>>have decided to take advantage of the "so called > > >>>global economy" and buy > > >>>into the chinese producers so they can sell fine > > >>>products along with > > >>>funai > > >>>and apex etc, pretty sad > > >>> > > >>>charles betzler > > >>>Best Electronics > > >>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> > > >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:36 PM > > >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>It's all over now,....but the cryin ! > > >>>>We can't get by without RCA/GE sets,...and we > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>don't want China to be > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>involved to anymore degree then they allready > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>are in our Industry. > > >>>When > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Korea took over control of Zenith by > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>Goldstar,...that's when Zenith > > >>>went > > >>>to > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>the dogs,...and now we will see that happen > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>with RCA (Radio > > >>>Corporation of > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>America),..what a laugh. > > >>>> > > >>>>LLW > > >>>> > > >>>>LeRoy Westlund > > >>>>Westlund TV & Electronics I've > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>heard it said: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>93 North Main "that > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>a fool never learns" > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 It kinda reminds > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>me of me. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > > >>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> > > >>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx> > > >>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:17 PM > > >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>But the Chinese have control, and it is > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>expected > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>that they will have full ownership in 6 months > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>or > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>so. > > >>>>>One of Thomson's tech support guys told me > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>that he > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>was going to work at Home Depot, and is > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>expecting > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>everyone to be laid off in that department. > > >>>>>He said that people were dissappearing around > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>there > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>every day. > > >>>>>Oh well, rca couldn't get much worse than the > > >>>>>ATC311. > > >>>>>Walter > > >>>>>--- "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>>>>wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>Its 2/3 s Owned by a Co. in China. That > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>is > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>what was said at a RCA meeting > > >>>>>>a couple of weeks ago. > > >>>>>>Phillip R Hull STET > > >>>>>>phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>>>>FAX 517--569-3075 > > >>>>>>Professional Technicians only > > >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" > > >>>>>><teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:05 PM > > >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Some conglomerate from France...me thinks. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>-Ed- > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Ed Gaidies > > >>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics > > >>>>>>>Ontario-Canada > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>On > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>Behalf Of Keith Trumbla > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:52 PM > > >>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Thomson TEC > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Who owns Thomson now ? > > >>>>>>>Keith Trumbla > > >>>>>>>BEM Electronics Inc. > > >>>>>>>Suite 212-530 Century St. > > >>>>>>>WPG. 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