[TechAssist] Suspect part
- From: "Peter oliver" <oliver_peter1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 22:03:29 +0000
Here is a suspect I found a BU517 code date 9556 failed rapidly This one
is NOT from tritronics. so split it open (with a hammer and Chisel) and
compaired to failed original code date 9627. On the code date 9556 the die
was about 30% smaller, the substrate was tinned copper with sucessive
surrounding square lines, the die was sealed with white silicone prior to
encapslation. the lines in the die were also fairly fine. I don't have
acess to a working SEM right now so it is dificult to say more. The failed
original code dated 9627 actually shattered the die in seperation had a very
well bonded top case no silicone, the sub straight was bare copper. the
original had a printed label. the suspect had an etched lettering, both
indicating ST morroco with simmilar cases. the suspect did have some damage
to the case front right at the bottom of the BU.
Peter Oliver
Tucson Radio TV
From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: TT- strikes again
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:00:03 -0500
Paul, fake = counterfeit, and a part being sold as equivalent
to STK730-020 but will not hold up because it does not have equivalent specs
is counterfeit, or fake. Just like a counterfeit, or fake, $20.00
bill......it just won't last long.
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Jim Myers
Since 1972
Telrad Electronic Services Co.
Fort Wayne, IN 46815
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:57 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: TT- strikes again
Hep me understand. What is a fake part? How do you differentiate between a
"fake" and a generic? My understanding of fake has been, something that
looks real but is not. Are the "fake" parts, not real parts? Generic parts
have a generic P/N.s What do fake parts have? Paul
gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:Well stated, Tony.
Most of us have thousand of dollars of inventory. When I get low on a
part or find a part I don't stock, I order them. Rarely order just one,
just for high-cost items. Even if you know when and where a part is
ordered, it may be many months later when you find it defective. You may
use three of one particular part in one week and not need another of the
same for a year.
Ken Smith
Gulf Technical Services
3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:37:35 -0500 "tony saracco"
writes:
> Yes Larry I did order generics, but I did not order fakes. Trouble
> with
> returning them is they have been in inventory for several months and
> have
> more than likely exceed the warr period. That's the trouble with
> inventory
> parts, they may not be used for some time before you find you have a
> prob
> with them. Now all my parts are tracked by when and where they came
> from.
>
> Tony Saracco
> TCS ELECTRONICS
> Elgin , IL 60120
> 847-695-1928
> tcselectronics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry E."
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:55 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: TT- strikes again
>
>
> > Tony, you do realize that the "TT-STK`s" are generic right? Why
> didn`t
> you
> > just order an original Panasonic STK730-020 from Tritronics? Call
> Tritronics
> > and ask for Kevin Harris he`ll make good on the parts if their
> defective,
> Larry E
> > Larry Eastman
> > American TV & Electronics
> > Crystal River, Fl. 34428
> >
> > tony saracco wrote:
> >
> > > Well found another TT- component that is a fake. The
> TT-STK730-020 does
> not work. I used several to repair a Panasonic 32" with each failing
> after 1
> hour . The regulator would get very hot after several minuets of
> operation
> and thermally kill itself. The component looks almost identical to an
> original but the plastic casing is uniform as opposed to slight
> irregularities in the original. the fake is several grams lighter in
> weight
> than the original and you can feel the difference by holding in your
> hand.
> Another difference is the fake is more hollow sounding if tapped on
> a table
> than the original which seems more solid. After installing an
> original from
> Electronica ,the set has worked fine and the regulator is slightly
> warm to
> the touch after 10 minuets of operation. Case closed.
> > > Tony Saracco
> > > TCS ELECTRONICS
> > > Elgin , IL 60120
> > > 847-695-1928
> > > tcselectronics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
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