it was the IC on the CRT board, pin 5 shorted to ground, replaced, all is well, thanks to Jim and Damon and who ever else, you guys and this site are a life saver, wish I could do more myself, but by the time I get on most problems are already resolved, thanks again. now for the 85 mile trip to take it back, can you believe that, at a buck a mile, mileage alone is 340 bucks, plus another couple hundred for me and the part !! oh my aching back Brock Electronics 5208 cr.3385 Independence Ks. 67301 620-331-0235 fax 331-7191 markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony blink code > KV27FS320, here are the notes from the work order. > 11/18 FOUND A TIP FROM SONY, IC702 IS SHORTED TAKING 200V LINE TO > GROUND, UNPLUG CN706 ON CRT SOCKET BOARD UNIT COMES ON WITH NO PIC /DAVE > 11/18/05, LED FLASHES 5 TIMES THEN 3 TIMES THEN MUST PULL PLUG TO > TRY AGAIN. THE HOT, D500 AND D504 CHECK OK. /JIM > > The Old Master Technician > ******************************** > Since 1972 * > Jim Myers * > Telrad Electronics * > Fort Wayne Indiana * > ******************************** > > > Damon wrote: > > Do you recall the model Jim? I'd like to look at the service manual. > > Damon B > > Telrad Electronics > > Fort Wayne IN > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:38 AM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony blink code > > > > > > > >>I did recently have a 5 - 3 blink code on a newer Sony direct view set > >>and the cause was the video IC on the CRT board. Try disconnecting the > >>200 volts to the CRT board to see if it stays on. > >> > >>The Old Master Technician > >>******************************** > >>Since 1972 * > >>Jim Myers * > >>Telrad Electronics * > >>Fort Wayne Indiana * > >>******************************** > >> > >> > >>Damon wrote: > >> > >>>Dims the lights.....thats not good. Wouldn't surprise me you take it to > > > > shop > > > >>>and it works without a hitch. > >>>5 blinks, then 3 blinks just isn't a valid code to me. > >>>I'd expect 22 blinks for Crt warmup > >>>Then I'd expect a pause, blink code, pause, blink code, pause....... > >>>I suspect that horiz/vert failures would cut the 22 blinks short, or > > > > smps > > > >>>failure may cut it short too. > >>>but it wouldn't change the pause/code/pause display. > >>> > >>>Damon B > >>>Telrad Electronics > >>>Fort Wayne IN > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "markbrock" <markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:02 AM > >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony blink code > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>, wasn't G2, hot and resistors check ok, strong pull at start up, > > > > dims > > > >>>>the lights in this junky old trailer it lives in, too much crap to work > >>> > >>>on > >>> > >>> > >>>>it there, pulled the board, will hook up to my 36" test tube later in > >>> > >>>week, > >>> > >>> > >>>>extended warranty or I would have turned around, what a dump I can't > >>> > >>>believe > >>> > >>> > >>>>how some folks live, he's a teacher and she's a teller at the bank, > > > > very > > > >>>>neat and clean except where they live. > >>>>Brock Electronics > >>>>5208 cr.3385 > >>>>Independence Ks. 67301 > >>>>620-331-0235 > >>>>fax 331-7191 > >>>>markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Damon" <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:42 AM > >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony blink code > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I wonder if it consistantly blinks 3 times? > >>>>>Because if it blinks 5 times, then 3 times, then dead....that could be > > > > 8 > > > >>>>>blinks before the CRT lights up and shuts down due to excessive screen > >>>>>voltage....had a customer yesterday whose description of DEAD turned > > > > out > > > >>>>to > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>be a "Blue screen then shutdown" problem....readjusted the blue screen > >>> > >>>and > >>> > >>> > >>>>>it works... > >>>>>Generally the SMPS parts you're carrying are for NO BLINKs /Dead. > >>>>>I would take a 2sd1881 universal horiz transistor, some "fast" diodes > >>> > >>>and > >>> > >>> > >>>>>0.47 ohm resistors for the + and - 15V vert supplies, and anticipate a > >>>>>chassis pull possibly, do you have at your shop a Sony 32-36 inch CRT > > > > to > > > >>>>>connect to?? > >>>>> > >>>>>Damon B > >>>>>Telrad Electronics > >>>>>Fort Wayne IN > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "markbrock" <markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM > >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Sony blink code > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>lost my blink code for sony's, 5 blinks than 3 blinks than dead, its > >>>> > >>>>one > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>of those 36" way too heavy for one man sets, hoping to fix it inhome > >>>> > >>>>this > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>morning, of course a long service call and flight of stairs, couldn't > >>>> > >>>>be > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>much worse, anyone have it ? I'll take the Q601,02 and white > >>> > >>>resistor > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>with me, KV36?? > >>>>>>customer couldn't move it to see model, just said it blinks five > >>> > >>>times > >>> > >>> > >>>>>than > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>three times than shuts off > >>>>>>thanks > >>>>>>brock > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Brock Electronics > >>>>>>5208 cr.3385 > >>>>>>Independence Ks. 67301 > >>>>>>620-331-0235 > >>>>>>fax 331-7191 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >>> > >>>>>--- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>This Email List is accessible to the general public through search > >>>>> > >>>>>engines. 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