[TechAssist] Re: Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture intermittent on/off
- From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:17:08 -0400
I think things will evolve where the customer will be asked to come by
and "front" the parts part of the invoice before ordering. But now
along with the deposit and final bill this repair will require three
checks! Have to either figure a flat labor in advance or something.
Gotta front these parts.Even with an open acct what if customer defaults
and you're stuck with a DLP now must be sold within the 30 days net to
reimburse the parts invoice.
Phil Bader
Philip Bader
Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
Fax (863) 299-8821
email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Al L wrote:
>I am very interested in how the people are handling these expensive parts!
>
>Al Leatherman
>224 RT. 46
>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>973-361-5796
>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:01 AM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture intermittent
>on/off
>
>
>
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>>I love these. No buying a 10 dollar IC as a test.No, major parts
>>purchases. I guess before you do, do you call and get approval from
>>the customer "incase this fixes this we have a go"? And would you just
>>figure on replacing both? As far as the economics of the job...
>>Phil
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Wayne Vanaman <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:33 am
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture
>>intermittent on/off
>>
>>
>>
>>>From what I have read either the lamp or the ballast (or the
>>>ballast
>>>power supply etc) could be a problem.
>>>
>>>Don't you love intermittants.
>>>
>>>Wayne Vanaman
>>>Omega Electronics
>>>6904 W Fairfield Dr
>>>Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
>>>
>>>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
>>>
>>>850-456-5995 voice
>>>850-458-6369 fax
>>>
>>>
>>>Damon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, I've had 2 XBR800's with bad lamps......and I think I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>replaced one
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lamp Driver board
>>>>Weird thing about this is the symptom.....TV illuminates, about
>>>>
>>>>
>>>30 - 60
>>>
>>>
>>>>seconds later it shuts down (the lamp does), then about 30-60
>>>>
>>>>
>>>seconds later
>>>
>>>
>>>>you hear the Lamp fire, lights up quick.........runs about a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>minute, then
>>>
>>>
>>>>shuts down again......
>>>>
>>>>You would Ass-u-me it acts like one of the thermoswitches is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>kicking in/out
>>>
>>>
>>>>or the Lamp Driver board is shutting down, but it's actually the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Lamp at
>>>
>>>
>>>>fault.
>>>>
>>>>Damon B
>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>Fort Wayne IN
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:59 AM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture
>>>>
>>>>
>>>intermittent> on/off
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I rather suspect that they mean lamp/ballast matching problems,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>but that
>>>
>>>
>>>>>isn't what they say.
>>>>>
>>>>>They also claim that the flickering CRT problem is in fewer than
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>1% of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>those sets, which means half the people in Pensacola own those
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>sets.
>>
>>
>>>>>Wayne Vanaman
>>>>>Omega Electronics
>>>>>6904 W Fairfield Dr
>>>>>Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
>>>>>
>>>>>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
>>>>>
>>>>>850-456-5995 voice
>>>>>850-458-6369 fax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim Myers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>ALL projection sets with a lamp have lamp problems! How could
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>they NOT
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>have lamp problems?
>>>>>>Maybe someday they will have an LED light source to replace the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>lamp.>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>********************************
>>>>>>Since 1972 *
>>>>>>Jim Myers *
>>>>>>Telrad Electronics *
>>>>>>Fort Wayne Indiana *
>>>>>>********************************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wayne Vanaman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sony "claims" that these models (kf50 and 60xbr800 and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>df60dx100) do not
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>have lamp problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I always believe Sony, don't you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wayne Vanaman
>>>>>>>Omega Electronics
>>>>>>>6904 W Fairfield Dr
>>>>>>>Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>850-456-5995 voice
>>>>>>>850-458-6369 fax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rich M wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I always replace the lamp and ballast the first go around,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>also educate
>>>
>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>customer on the proper use of the et.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1. make sure there is a lot room around the unit for proper
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>ventilation>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>2. make sure the unit is not on a switched outlet
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>3. better to leave the unit on between shows if only 30 min
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>to 2 hours
>>>
>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>part, the cooling and heating of the lamp decrease the lamp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>life.,>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>4. don't move the tv after you turn it off because the lamp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>is very
>>>
>>>
>>>>fragile,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>give it a couple hours to cool
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>5. Also put the unit on a U.P.S battery backup. So if you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>lose power
>>>
>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>lampstill have time to cool. then turn off set.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From: "tvservice" <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>intermittent>
>>>
>>>
>>>>on/off
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:42:04 -0500
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi group,
>>>>>>>>>am servicing this proj tv it will come on normal for about 1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>minute>
>>>
>>>
>>>>then
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>picture and sound go off, lamp goes out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just as it goes out the "standby led" starts blinking, at 30
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>blinks>
>>>
>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>heara click (relay) and at 4 more blinks picture and sound
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>are back. It
>>>
>>>
>>>>will
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>operate about another minute and repeat cycle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is this a lamp or ballast problem?
>>>>>>>>>I remember seeing something posted about the Sony LCD
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>projection sets
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>havingsome ballast modification but I didn't save them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Please any help would be appreciated
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Robert
>>>>>>>>>tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>H &H Electronics Inc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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