To save the responses, I've tried video status/display(no) sleep timer to 0 then video status/display(no) set clock to 3.21AM the when 'Set Clock' turned on 'Thank you' hit mute and up and down(no). The last was for units '95 and newer and this is a 2001 model. Does anyone have another way to access the service menu? There was no circuit failures on this set. It was a write off for a rental place due to a loose shadow mask. Changed tubes with a Phillips 32D7 but had to keep the Phillips yoke. Just need to adjust vertical and slight side pin. Using a new JVC remote, but it just ain't happening. Thanks for any. Terry H. The TV Shop Gonzales, Tx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jokes, complaints, off topics, general chat. Everything other than repair help problems can be found at this new list. No archives and posts will not be found on Google or any other engine!To remove or join, click: mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe%20chat Send to the list at chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx once subscribed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/