Ok let try this one more time lol.when this set came in I had sound but no pic just what looks like herring boning.I have change the tuner and the ant block because some one had tried to do a make shift repair.but I still have some what of the same problem.but I did notice when I went to autoprogram the set is now says no signal on either air or cable.I do not have the manual for this one.but I do have 12 volts and 5 volts at the tuner assy I think it may be a chip but not sure. thanks Chuck Staples Staples TV Phippsburg Maine 04562 hivotls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/