Richard, So, was there nothing wrong with the original flyback in this set? I sure would like to see a solution for when you have to replace the fly on these things...glad you got your fixed. support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx FAX 717-564-4952 Jeff Dougherty Intrepid Video & Electronics Be careful of your thoughts. 501 Luther Rd They may become your words Harrisburg, PA 17111 any moment. 717-909-8844 VCR tips, electronics info & general interest. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net www.thetoolcaddy.com www.9-11-2001tragedy.com *********************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at turn on-shorts HOT-UPDATE I FIXED IT:!***Found open C4402, .056,400v cap damper return. It reminded me of the old Zenith "F" chassis & GE's---The first time I saw one of them it blew up my test jig> Thanks, all you guys, for leading me in the right direction Richard La Placa Continental TV Chestertown MD. >From: "PRO-ELECTRONICS" <pro501@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at turn >on-shorts HOT-UPDATE >Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:59:35 -0600 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from turing.freelists.org ([206.53.239.180]) by >mc7-f42.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Fri, 10 Jan >2003 09:37:03 -0800 >Received: from turing.(none) (localhost [127.0.0.1])by turing.freelists.org >(Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTPid 1826C94CF7; Fri, 10 Jan >2003 11:04:37 -0500 (EST) >Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list techassist); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:04:31 >-0500 (EST) >Received: from sccimhc02.insightbb.com (sccimhc02.insightbb.com >[63.240.76.164])by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail >Multiplex) with ESMTP id 897F4951B6for <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Fri, 10 >Jan 2003 10:55:41 -0500 (EST) >Received: from gateway ([12.221.161.116]) by sccimhc02.insightbb.com > (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id ><20030110160223.CZKS25124.sccimhc02.insightbb.com@gateway> for ><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:02:23 +0000 >Delivered-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Message-ID: <000d01c2b8c1$45a47580$74a1dd0c@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >References: <F109mbvwXbdtFxbRBme0001b2b0@xxxxxxxxxxx> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >X-archive-position: 14693 >X-Approved-By: admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 >Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Errors-To: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >X-original-sender: pro501@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Precedence: normal >X-list: techassist >Return-Path: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2003 17:37:04.0022 (UTC) >FILETIME=[E38CBB60:01C2B8CE] > > >Richard: >Did you check the capacitors in the HOT circuit?Can't remember which >one-.05MFD at 400V.I had that same problem. >Joe >PRO-ELECTRONICS >pro501@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 09:45 AM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at turn >on-shorts HOT-UPDATE > > > > > > Still puzzeled. > > I got an original hot # 200167 ( at $12.00 a crack) and put it in this >set > > this set this morning and it shorted out instantly. I then put the cheap > > bulk "sk" type 2sd1555 in it and it comes on and works fine.I can't >leave >it > > in there because it will get too warm after about 20 minutes.I checked >the > > diodes in the circuit and they check good. I know the 2sd1555 has a >built >in > > damper .Maby I still have a problem with the old transformer but I still > > don't have a new one to try that won't burn up the regulator board. > > Does anybody know of a stronger transistor than the 2sd1555 ,with the >built > > in damper ,that can handle the higher current and not get too warm? > > > > Thanks again > > > > Richard La Placa > > Continental TV > > 312a Park Row > > Chestertown, Md,21620 > > Fax&Phone-410-778-1113 > > continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at turn > > >on-shorts HOT-UPDATE > > >Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:36:55 -0500 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >X-Originating-IP: [162.33.106.209] > > >Received: from turing.freelists.org ([206.53.239.180]) by > > >mc9-f15.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 9 >Jan > > >2003 15:45:48 -0800 > > >Received: from turing.(none) (localhost [127.0.0.1])by >turing.freelists.org > > >(Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTPid D7108947EB; Thu, 9 >Jan > > >2003 18:39:07 -0500 (EST) > > >Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list techassist); Thu, 09 Jan 2003 >18:39:03 > > >-0500 (EST) > > >Received: from hotmail.com (f150.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.37.150])by > > >turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id > > >0220E946A7for <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:39:02 >-0500 > > >(EST) > > >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft >SMTPSVC; > > >Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:36:56 -0800 > > >Received: from 162.33.106.209 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with >HTTP;Thu, > > >09 Jan 2003 23:36:55 GMT > > >Delivered-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Message-ID: <F150ypEiGLca0Lz500T000276dc@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 23:36:56.0258 (UTC) > > >FILETIME=[FF1CBA20:01C2B837] > > >X-archive-position: 14637 > > >X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 > > >Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Errors-To: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >X-original-sender: continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx > > >Precedence: normal > > >X-list: techassist > > >Return-Path: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > >I put the old flyback in again, and the horiz drive pulse was all >distorted > > >going in to the hot, so I tried a new U1001 and I got a picture , but >not > > >with the bulk 'D1885"s they sent me. I temporarily stuck a 1555 in it >(I > > >know it won't work because cant take the load) and ordered the original > > >hot(I HOPE).After all the high voltage surges the audio output IC went >as > > >well as the eeprom.. None of the above was wrong before I stuck that >lousy > > >new flyback in.I just hope this helps any body else from wasting two >days > > >and a dozen hot's on something that could have been avoided. > > > > > >Richard La Placa > > >Continental TV > > >312a Park Row > > >Chestertown, Md,21620 > > >Fax&Phone-410-778-1113 > > >continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jeff Dougherty" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at >turn > > > >on-shorts HOT-UPDATE > > > >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:35:18 -0500 > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >Received: from turing.freelists.org ([206.53.239.180]) by > > > >mc9-f16.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, >9 > > >Jan > > > >2003 13:45:20 -0800 > > > >Received: from turing.(none) (localhost [127.0.0.1])by > > >turing.freelists.org > > > >(Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTPid CFC719496C; Thu, 9 >Jan > > > >2003 16:38:35 -0500 (EST) > > > >Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list techassist); Thu, 09 Jan 2003 > > >16:38:32 > > > >-0500 (EST) > > > >Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (h012.c007.snv.cp.net >[209.228.33.240])by > > > >turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with SMTP >id > > > >348FD94297for <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 >16:38:30 -0500 > > > >(EST) > > > >Received: (cpmta 17439 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 13:45:04 >-0800 > > > >Received: from 65.189.80.9 (HELO office) by smtp.directvinternet.com > > > >(209.228.33.240) with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 13:45:04 -0800 > > > >Delivered-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >X-Sent: 9 Jan 2003 21:45:04 GMT > > > >Message-ID: <01bc01c2b827$f3d5b6e0$2402a8c0@DOUGHERTY> > > > >References: <F139UO41HDwcTYihiPH000059b0@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Organization: Intrepid Video Support > > > >X-Priority: 3 > > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 > > > >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 > > > >X-archive-position: 14623 > > > >X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 > > > >Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >Errors-To: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >X-original-sender: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >Precedence: normal > > > >X-list: techassist > > > >Return-Path: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 21:45:20.0885 (UTC) > > > >FILETIME=[685BE250:01C2B828] > > > > > > > > > > > >Richard, > > > >You DO NOT have to cut the Anode wire. The cap just pulls off.....for > > > >future > > > >reference. > > > >Something tells me those flybacks are for the direct view chassis >only. > > >On > > > >my set, > > > >I tried a flyback from a direct view CTC169 and the same resistor >smoked. > > > >support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >FAX 717-564-4952 > > > >Jeff Dougherty > > > >Intrepid Video & Electronics Be careful of your thoughts. > > > >501 Luther Rd They may become your words > > > >Harrisburg, PA 17111 any moment. > > > >717-909-8844 > > > >VCR tips, electronics info & general interest. > > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > >www.thetoolcaddy.com www.9-11-2001tragedy.com > > > > >*********************************************************************** > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:25 PM > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at >turn > > > >on-shorts > > > >HOT-UPDATE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I figured it must be a bad or (drastically internally different) new >part > > > >because it did not smoke until I put the new flyback in. I will call > > > >Cumberland Electronics in the morning. Too bad I had to cut off the >anode > > > >cap on the replacement. It had instructions and a smaller black >grommet > > > >enclosed to replace the larger red one at the splitter.Evidently it >is > > > >listed wrong on their computer. > > > > > > > >TIA > > > > > > > >Richard La Placa > > > >Continental TV > > > >312a Park Row > > > >Chestertown, Md,21620 > > > >Fax&Phone-410-778-1113 > > > >continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Clancy Harms" <dickstv1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at >turn > > > > >on-shorts HOT-UPDATE > > > > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:46:03 -0600 > > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > >Received: from turing.freelists.org ([206.53.239.180]) by > > > > >mc3-f35.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); >Wed, >8 > > > >Jan > > > > >2003 18:46:06 -0800 > > > > >Received: from turing.(none) (localhost [127.0.0.1])by > > > >turing.freelists.org > > > > >(Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTPid 1162B94557; Wed, >8 > > >Jan > > > > >2003 21:39:29 -0500 (EST) > > > > >Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list techassist); Wed, 08 Jan 2003 > > > >21:39:25 > > > > >-0500 (EST) > > > > >Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net > > >(scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net > > > > >[207.217.120.49])by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail > > > > >Multiplex) with ESMTP id C93AD94530for <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; >Wed, > > > >8 > > > > >Jan 2003 21:39:24 -0500 (EST) > > > > >Received: from dialup-63.208.60.114dial1.saintlouis1.level3.net > > > > >([63.208.60.114] helo=shop)by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with >smtp > > > >(Exim > > > > >3.33 #1)id 18WShb-0006vP-00for techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Wed, 08 >Jan > > >2003 > > > > >18:45:52 -0800 > > > > >Delivered-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >Message-ID: <003c01c2b789$4d659260$341cfea9@shop> > > > > >References: <F82zGWD0NHqL463sC0U0002381f@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > ><OE56Zp72fnGmP5hn0qs000017ef@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > ><022d01c2b75f$2ee91ac0$2402a8c0@DOUGHERTY> > > > > >X-Priority: 3 > > > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 > > > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 > > > > >X-archive-position: 14536 > > > > >X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 > > > > >Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >Errors-To: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >X-original-sender: dickstv1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >Precedence: normal > > > > >X-list: techassist > > > > >Return-Path: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 02:46:06.0715 (UTC) > > > > >FILETIME=[421944B0:01C2B789] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I ran into the same problem! > > > > >About three weeks ago > > > > > > > > > >Clancy Harms, NESDA's Region 7 Director > > > > >Dick's Radio & TV, Inc. > > > > >2319 West Clay St. "Aim high men" > > > > >St. Charles, MO. 63301 "they're on camels" > > > > >(636)-724-5055 > > > > >(636)-724-5531 fax > > > > >email: dickstv1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Jeff Dougherty" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:40 PM > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at >turn > > > > >on-shorts HOT-UPDATE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > >Richard, > > > > >That would be R4762U, 430 ohm, 1w > > > > > > > > > >I had the same problem, turned out I kept getting the wrong flyback >for > > > > >this > > > > >set. > > > > >Original FBT had a hole in it. I repaired the hole using Glytpol >and > > >the > > > > >resistor > > > > >and haven't seen the set since. > > > > >I tried two FBT's from Tritronics and both gave me the same >problem. > > > > >No one could give me a straight answer, so I would guess these are > > > >packaged > > > > >incorrectly. > > > > >If the resistor smokes again, try the original flyback, unless >you're > > > >sure > > > > >the > > > > >original FBT is bad., > > > > >support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >FAX 717-564-4952 > > > > >Jeff Dougherty > > > > >Intrepid Video & Electronics Be careful of your thoughts. > > > > >501 Luther Rd They may become your words > > > > >Harrisburg, PA 17111 any moment. > > > > >717-909-8844 > > > > >VCR tips, electronics info & general interest. > > > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > > >www.thetoolcaddy.com www.9-11-2001tragedy.com > > > > > >*********************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:45 PM > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at >turn > > > > >on-shorts > > > > >HOT-UPDATE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Found R 762U on Voltage Reg board burned open---don't know the > > > >value--have > > > > >no service manual. > > > > >Can anybody send value? > > > > >TIA > > > > >Richard La Placa > > > > >Continental TV > > > > >312a Park Row > > > > >Chestertown, Md. > > > > >fax&phone-410-778-1113 > > > > >website: http://www.continentaltv.homestead.com/ > > > > >continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:31 AM > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] RCA-P46728WK-CTC169PC--B+ Skyrockets at turn > > > > >on-shorts > > > > >HOT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > Hate to bother but am stusk. Changed flyback, IC 4101,C4102, >C4104& > > >cr > > > > >4118 > > > > > > & C4401 & C4141. > > > > > > B+ standby is 141 volts. 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