hello, just wanted to thank everyone for the input once more on the rca tv, what the problem was ,,cold solder connection on jc403,jc411, and r4104 was not open but had cold solder. th 'jc's' are surface mount jumpers on the bottom of the board, i didnt realize that at first because i didnt have a print. but,,, it worked. troy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Help make your TechAssist online repair tips database better! Submit your fixes here: http://www.circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips To unsubscribe write to: techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line.