phew!!!!!!!!!! The trace from pin 5 on eprom was just about open where it runs around the chipper checker socket. After calling the 900 number twice and going around in a circle with every troubleshooting flow chart, and changing the "T" chip, the micro, and eprom for the last week!!!!!!!!!!! There was no evidence of a fluid leak, but something ate this up. Richard La Placa Continental TV 312a Park Row Chestertown, Md,21620 Fax&Phone-410-778-1113 continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx >From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA Mod#P46813BL, CH# PTK195AA-dead >Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 13:50:39 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from turing.freelists.org ([206.53.239.180]) by mc11-f19 with >Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:21:05 -0700 >Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1])by turing.freelists.org >(Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTPid 70FD8390A48; Thu, 4 Sep >2003 13:51:26 -0500 (EST) >Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list techassist); Thu, 04 Sep 2003 13:51:26 >-0500 (EST) >Received: from smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com >[66.163.168.186])by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail >Multiplex) with SMTP id 07FF539109Dfor <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 4 >Sep 2003 13:49:58 -0500 (EST) >Received: from adsl-67-66-169-89.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net (HELO robertshop) >(tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx@67.66.169.89 with login) by >smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2003 18:50:20 -0000 >X-Message-Info: UZmYcfFpTCf4UJ9Cih1K6I7w7ehwRl4M >Delivered-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Message-ID: <001d01c37315$70222820$0501a8c0@robertshop> >References: <BAY7-F97PkFYl74wSeR000037ec@xxxxxxxxxxx> ><00af01c37257$47649080$6500a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ><BAY7-DAV14SRtvzrSqq000070fe@xxxxxxxxxxx> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >X-archive-position: 3074 >X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 >Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Errors-To: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >X-original-sender: tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Precedence: normal >X-list: techassist >Return-Path: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2003 21:21:06.0530 (UTC) >FILETIME=[73CF6C20:01C3732A] > >Data from the micro turns on the horizontal drive from T chip >Sounds like your T chip is bad >Robert >tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >H & H Electronics Inc >Dallas, TX >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:00 PM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA Mod#P46813BL, CH# PTK195AA-dead > > > > Hi > > When I disconnect pin 3 & 4 on micro I get 4.8 volts at the pads. When >I > > reconnect them I dont get anything. Can a bad T chip cause this? Does it > > need the bus& data from the micro to produce any horiz & vert?I have > > voltages on the la7612. I have4.8 volts at the bus & data lines there , >but > > when I re-connect pin 3&4 on micro they dissapear. > > Tia > > Richard La Placa > > Continental TV > > 312a Park Row > > Chestertown, Md. > > fax&phone-410-778-1113 > > website: http://www.continentaltv.homestead.com/ > > continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mouton's Electronics" <moutons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:07 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA Mod#P46813BL, CH# PTK195AA-dead > > > > > > > Try disconnecting the trigger to the dual voltage regulator (5/12v >reg) >so > > > that the regulator will stay on then disconnect pin 3&4 on the micro >(the > > > run clock and data) plug in and press the power. If the set comes on >you > > > have something pulling down the run clock and data lines. You can > > reconnect > > > pin 3&4 then disconnect the clock and data to each IC one at a time >and > > try > > > the set, if it comes on then change that IC. As long as these lines >stay > > low > > > the set will never run. > > > > > > I have tried to keep up with this thread to get new info and hope >noone > > > suggested this already, sorry if this is redundant. > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > Jason > > > Mouton's Electronics > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:21 PM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA Mod#P46813BL, CH# PTK195AA-dead > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > I applied 5 volts to pin 5 of IC 14701 and got 5 & 12 volts out , >but > > the > > > > set still wont come on.Pin 19 on micro is still dead. cant see any > > > > corrossion.Get a little pop from speakers when first plugged in and > > after > > > a > > > > little while after it is unplugged you can hear another little pop, >like > > a > > > > shutdown circuit is releasing.I guess I'm really stuck on this one. >Does > > > > anybody know of an rca tech line a non asc can call? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard La Placa > > > > Continental TV > > > > 312a Park Row > > > > Chestertown, Md,21620 > > > > Fax&Phone-410-778-1113 > > > > continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA Mod#P46813BL, CH# PTK195AA-dead > > > > >Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:12:03 -0500 > > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > >Received: from turing.freelists.org ([206.53.239.180]) by > > > > >mc8-f21.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); >Tue, >2 > > > Sep > > > > >2003 07:11:57 -0700 > > > > >Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1])by >turing.freelists.org > > > > >(Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTPid 7A5CA390722; Tue, >2 > > > Sep > > > > >2003 09:11:45 -0500 (EST) > > > > >Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list techassist); Tue, 02 Sep 2003 > > > 09:11:44 > > > > >-0500 (EST) > > > > >Received: from smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com >(smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com > > > > >[66.163.168.180])by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail > > > > >Multiplex) with SMTP id 55D42390721for <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; >Tue, > > > 2 > > > > >Sep 2003 09:11:44 -0500 (EST) > > > > >Received: from adsl-67-66-169-89.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net (HELO > > robertshop) > > > > >(tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx@67.66.169.89 with login) by > > > > >smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2003 >14:11:46 -0000 > > > > >X-Message-Info: UZmYcfFpTCeNaoULv4XnOh/BN8j4nx8p > > > > >Delivered-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >Message-ID: <00cd01c3715c$2ff940e0$0501a8c0@robertshop> > > > > >References: <BAY7-F108lcSYibKb4S000078e4@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >X-Priority: 3 > > > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > > > > >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > > > > >X-archive-position: 2882 > > > > >X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 > > > > >Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >Errors-To: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >X-original-sender: tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >Precedence: normal > > > > >X-list: techassist > > > > >Return-Path: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2003 14:11:59.0243 (UTC) > > > > >FILETIME=[2C67B5B0:01C3715C] > > > > > > > > > >+153 volts in standby is normal > > > > >Unsolder R14708 on front of main board (labeled R708 on board) > > > > >then in standby measure for +5 and +12 at pins 6 and 7 of IC14701 > > > > >if missing eithe replace IC14701 or look for load on these pins > > > > >Also look very carefully around eeprom and micro for coolant >leakage > > > > >Had this last week finally removed chipper check service connector >from > > > > >board found corrosion underneath > > > > >Robert > > > > >tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >H & H Electronics Inc > > > > >Dallas, TX > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:48 AM > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA Mod#P46813BL, CH# PTK195AA-dead > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > I am still in the dog house on this one. > > > > > > I changed the micro & eprom and still no go. Can anybody tell be > > what > > > > >the > > > > >B+ > > > > > > should be in the standby condition? I have 153.4 volts at the >hot. >I > > > > >tried > > > > >a > > > > > > 40 watt bulb for a load and get 140 volts there, but all other > > voltage > > > > > > supplies are still high. Can this cause the micro to lock up? > > > > > > tia > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard La Placa > > > > > > Continental TV > > > > > > 312a Park Row > > > > > > Chestertown, Md,21620 > > > > > > Fax&Phone-410-778-1113 > > > > > > continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA Mod#P46813BL, CH# PTK195AA-dead > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:27:44 -0500 > > > > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > > > >Received: from mc5-f42.law1.hotmail.com ([65.54.252.49]) by > > > > > > >mc5-s9.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); >Thu, > > > 28 > > > > >Aug > > > > > > >2003 14:41:38 -0700 > > > > > > >Received: from turing.freelists.org ([206.53.239.180]) by > > > > > > >mc5-f42.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); > > Thu, > > > 28 > > > > >Aug > > > > > > >2003 12:42:12 -0700 > > > > > > >Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1])by > > turing.freelists.org > > > > > > >(Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTPid 7B227390076; >Thu, > > > 28 > > > > >Aug > > > > > > >2003 14:28:19 -0500 (EST) > > > > > > >Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list techassist); Thu, 28 Aug >2003 > > > > >14:28:19 > > > > > > >-0500 (EST) > > > > > > >Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com > > (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com > > > > > > >[66.163.168.183])by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies >Mail > > > > > > >Multiplex) with SMTP id A3C643908ADfor ><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > > > Thu, > > > > >28 > > > > > > >Aug 2003 14:28:18 -0500 (EST) > > > > > > >Received: from adsl-67-66-169-89.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net (HELO > > > > >robertshop) > > > > > > >(tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx@67.66.169.89 with login) by > > > > > > >smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2003 >19:27:35 > > > > >-0000 > > > > > > >X-Message-Info: vAu4ZEtdRijIC+c49rSn6JUaCmwRks4I > > > > > > >Delivered-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > >Message-ID: <001701c36d9a$755c99e0$0501a8c0@robertshop> > > > > > > >References: <BAY7-DAV34aYFkuutSg00000e32@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > >X-Priority: 3 > > > > > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > > > > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > > > > > > >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > > > > > > >X-archive-position: 2721 > > > > > > >X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 > > > > > > >Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > >Errors-To: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > >X-original-sender: tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > >Precedence: normal > > > > > > >X-list: techassist > > > > > > >Return-Path: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2003 19:42:12.0593 (UTC) > > > > > > >FILETIME=[7A043E10:01C36D9C] > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sounds like a bad micro to me > > > > > > >Robert > > > > > > >tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > >H & H Electronics Inc > > > > > > >Dallas, TX > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > >From: "Richard La Placa" <continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:56 PM > > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] RCA Mod#P46813BL, CH# PTK195AA-dead > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help??? > > > > > > > > When I unsolder pin 23 & pin 24 on micro.(U13101) I get >real > > good > > > > >clock > > > > > > >& > > > > > > >data pulses coming out, but the DC voltages are low.The DC >voltage > > on > > > > >the > > > > > > >pads is 4.9 volts , but when I reconnect, I only get 1.6 volts >on > > pin > > > > > > >23(data) & 2.29volts on pin 24(clock). The micro seems to be > > holding > > > > >the > > > > > > >voltage down.I don't have anything coming out of pin > > 19(run/stby).The > > > > >micro > > > > > > >costs $49.00, and I am trying to make sure it is really bad >before > > I > > > > >get > > > > >a > > > > > > >new one. I dont see many of projection sets here and won't need >a > > > spare > > > > > > >micro if this is still good. > > > > > > > > Any help greatly appreciated > > > > > > > > Richard La Placa > > > > > > > > Continental TV > > > > > > > > 312a Park Row > > > > > > > > Chestertown, Md. > > > > > > > > fax&phone-410-778-1113 > > > > > > > > website: http://www.continentaltv.homestead.com/ > > > > > > > > continentaltv@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >*************************************************************************** > > > > >* > > > > > > >* > > > > > > > > Classifieds! 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