[TechAssist] Re: RCA HDTV Model D52W20\ITC222 Chassis.
- From: "jonas miglinas" <miglinasj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:58:45 -0500
Hello Perry,
I've had four of your model in the past six months with the same symptoms.
Two were the power cord, (molded head had loose pins), and the other two
ended up being the SSB board. I repaired the SSB boards by resoldering all
the cable/ribbon connectors on that board. No call backs as of yet.
Jonas Miglinas
Miglinas TV
Chicago
----- Original Message -----
From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 4:47 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA HDTV Model D52W20\ITC222 Chassis.
> Jim and Wayne good points. It's sad that to call techline not to get help
> but for a record. Also, I wonder if the manufacturer Techs are the expert
or
> do they get their tips from us. Afterall we see the broke sets nationwide.
> They sit up there thinking they have engineered a set that will never
break
> or at least I hope they think that way. So although I know we give them
the
> credit, and they have these big titles, and they probably make more in a
> year than I ever made, I think I am talking to the real experts on here. I
> will call them for a record of the complaint though and see if one of the
> hard working mom and pop shops that are not on tech assist might have seen
> this problem.
>
> Perry Bower
> Electric Medic
> "It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> http://www.electricmedic.com
> 3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> Martinez, Georgia 30907
> Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> Phone: 706-863-3474
> Fax: 706-863-2316
> mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim Myers
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:02 PM
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA HDTV Model D52W20\ITC222 Chassis.
>
>
> Well, it's your wallet I guess but the manufacturers techs are the
> experts......and sometimes DO come up with a good answer. My point is
> when a customer says there is something wrong you better darn well
> believe there IS something wrong, you have two sets with the same
> complaint from two different customers and don't see a problem. Maybe
> the manufacturer has some information that has not yet been published.
> You'll never know if you don't ask.
>
>
> ********************************
> Since 1972 *
> Jim Myers *
> Telrad Electronics *
> Fort Wayne Indiana *
> ********************************
>
>
> Electric Medic wrote:
> > Techline? Techline? Jim, did you say Techline? I have never gotten a
> "Good"
> > tip or suggestion from Techline or any manufacturer Techline. Usually I
am
> > shaking my head in disbelief when I get off the phone. Knowing less than
I
> > did before the call. And if it has to do with getting paid they will run
> > from that one as fast as they can, "that is not their department". I
know
> > what they will say "Call your field rep". I have gotten fixes from you
> all,
> > WinStips, and other sources, but never a manufacturer techline, not just
> > RCA, but..none of them. I can honestly say, that no manufacturer Tech
Help
> > has ever given me a tip that fixed the unit. Maybe that is where you all
> get
> > the tips to put in WinStips, but..I haven't been so lucky. Now I assume
> this
> > Philips L04 thermistor tip came from the Manufacturer, and I have fixed
> many
> > of those, but I am not sure if some Mom and Pop didn't discover it.
Also,
> > lots of times years ago when I called I couldn't understand the person
on
> > the other end, and we had to hold forever. That turned me off years ago
> > about calling them. I might as well ask a two year old. I hate to be
> > brutally honest, but..I know no other way.
> >
> > Perry Bower
> > Electric Medic
> > "It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> > http://www.electricmedic.com
> > 3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> > Martinez, Georgia 30907
> > Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> > Phone: 706-863-3474
> > Fax: 706-863-2316
> > mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim Myers
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 4:52 PM
> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA HDTV Model D52W20\ITC222 Chassis.
> >
> >
> > Have you called the tech line to see what they suggest should be done?
> > I'd do that and then do SOMETHING to bill them for a repair. It hurts
> > too much to let one go with no pay. By the way, they DO pay for NPRB
now.
> >
> >
> > ********************************
> > Since 1972 *
> > Jim Myers *
> > Telrad Electronics *
> > Fort Wayne Indiana *
> > ********************************
> >
> >
> > Electric Medic wrote:
> >
> >>Jason: Yeah I did that on one of them, Someone brought me that tip from
> >>somewhere and I am playing the sets. I don't know if this is a fix
because
> >
> > I
> >
> >>never saw it shutdown in the first place. I think I am going to send
them
> >>back home. Manufacturer warranty doesn't pay enough to baby-sit these
sets
> >>forever, I am already losing money and haven't even fixed them yet.
Paying
> >>two men to pickup and deliver these sets and not see a problem is
> >
> > ridicules
> >
> >>especially under warranty. Who knows if this shutdown ever happened?
Lets
> >>see, RCA made a profit, the selling dealer made a profit and poor mom
and
> >>pop repair shop loses money trying to find spit in the ocean. Something
is
> >>not right here. RCA can replace the sets if the customers still has
> >>problems. Lynn are you listening???
> >>
> >>Perry Bower
> >>Electric Medic
> >>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >>http://www.electricmedic.com
> >>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> >>Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> >>Phone: 706-863-3474
> >>Fax: 706-863-2316
> >>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Moutons Electronics
> >>L.L.C.
> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 3:46 PM
> >>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA HDTV Model D52W20\ITC222 Chassis.
> >>
> >>
> >>Just a thought but there is a line filter molded into the a/c plug and
I
> >>think it is the same plug they use in the atc221 chassis. There is a
> >>bulletin on the act221 that says the filter can cause intermittant
> >
> > shutdowns
> >
> >>or dead set. Even though the problem was suppose to be corrected in this
> >>chassis and the bulletin is not listed for this chassis it is cheap to
> >>replace.
> >>
> >>Jason
> >>Moutons Electronics
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:19 PM
> >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA HDTV Model D52W20\ITC222 Chassis.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Right you are Perry, but if you must take a WAG I'd go for a high
> >>>failure part like the splitter. At least we know it CAN cause the set
to
> >>>shut off and come back on. Of course a loose AC socket in the house
> >>>could do the same. This one did make a loud snap when it shut off,
maybe
> >>>you should question the owner if anything like that was heard at the
> time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>********************************
> >>>Since 1972 *
> >>>Jim Myers *
> >>>Telrad Electronics *
> >>>Fort Wayne Indiana *
> >>>********************************
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Electric Medic wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Jim: I like the applesauce jar test. That is much cheaper than the
> >>>>splitter.
> >>>>I wonder if it could be a permanent fix. I would love to use it on the
> >>>>169's, those splitters are $65 now, the good ones at least. I would
have
> >>>>to
> >>>>use a mason though, we don't have applesauce. I don't know if my
problem
> >>>>is
> >>>>the splitter unless it can be this intermittent, I mean I have not
even
> >>>>seen
> >>>>the sets shutdown. The bad thing about replacing anything on this set,
> >>>>especially a expensive SSB board is that I will never know if it is
> >>>>fixed,
> >>>>since I have never seen them shutoff. What a mess? I would be better
off
> >>>>playing Eeny Meeny Miney Moe.
> >>>>
> >>>>Perry Bower
> >>>>Electric Medic
> >>>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >>>>http://www.electricmedic.com
> >>>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> >>>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >>>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> >>>>Phone: 706-863-3474
> >>>>Fax: 706-863-2316
> >>>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim Myers
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:56 AM
> >>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA HDTV Model D52W20\ITC222 Chassis.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I just finished installing a new HV splitter in one, D52W19BYX2
ITC222,
> >>>>for a constant shut off and back on problem. It would sometimes stay
on
> >>>>long enough to get a raster but most times it would go off before or
as
> >>>>soon as the raster started to show. Simple method to verify the
splitter
> >>>>to be the cause in this case since the problem was constant was to
pull
> >>>>the 4 HV wires from it, connect them all together, shove them into an
> >>>>applesauce jar, empty of course, and set works fine. Find a way to
mount
> >>>>the applesauce jar or get a new splitter, P/N 263032. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> *****DON'T try this at home kids!*****
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>********************************
> >>>>Since 1972 *
> >>>>Jim Myers *
> >>>>Telrad Electronics *
> >>>>Fort Wayne Indiana *
> >>>>********************************
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Electric Medic wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>OK, Has anybody had a complaint of these D52W20\ITC222 that will
> >>>>>intermittently shutdown and sometimes come back on by itself. I have
> two
> >>>>
> >>>>in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>the shop now, same models, two different customers, (of course both
> >
> > under
> >
> >>>>>warranty) that the customers say will shutdown and one of them the
> >>>>
> >>>>customer
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>says will come back on. I looked in the menu and auto on is on, maybe
> >>>>>that
> >>>>>is why it comes back on. However, I have played them both for days,
> they
> >>>>>never shutdown. I figure if I have two at the same time, someone must
> of
> >>>>>seen this before. I hate to order boards to try, the ssb board is
$287,
> >>>>
> >>>>and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>if I need two that adds up, even if RCA will pay me back. Heck it
could
> >>>>>be
> >>>>>any board, right? Suggestions?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Perry Bower
> >>>>>Electric Medic
> >>>>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >>>>>http://www.electricmedic.com
> >>>>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> >>>>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >>>>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> >>>>>Phone: 706-863-3474
> >>>>>Fax: 706-863-2316
> >>>>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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