I think you misunderstood what I said ( or plain and simple Im tired and cannot think now) I was compairing the g2 source at gnd potential to the 200v source at ground potential. G2 gives a dark pix and 200v source gives a brite w/ retrace when at gnd. two different sources. Why am I even compairing these two sources, who knows like I said time to call it a day. Tony Saracco TCS ELECTRONICS Elgin , IL 60120 847-695-1928 tcselectronics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA F27672ET CTC187BD2 > Isn't ground equal to zero volts? > > Kevin Wilks > Kevin's TV & Video Repair > Penticton BC Canada > kevintv@xxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tony saracco > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:36 PM > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA F27672ET CTC187BD2 > > no, with a G2 short its voltage is at 0 volts just like turning down the > G2 > all the way and getting a dark pix, if the 200v source were to go to > ground > the pix would go very brite w/ retrace. > > Tony Saracco > TCS ELECTRONICS > Elgin , IL 60120 > 847-695-1928 > tcselectronics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 3:48 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA F27672ET CTC187BD2 > > > > Wouldn't a G2 short make the picture go very bright? > > > > Kevin Wilks > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair > > Penticton BC Canada > > kevintv@xxxxxxx > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry H. > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:21 PM > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA F27672ET CTC187BD2 > > > > Neil, you most likely have a G2 short and is easily removed. Pull the > > crt > > board, put a clip lead on the G2 pin the other end to a long > > screwdriver. > > Fire the set up then off. Discharge the crt into that pin. If it > doesn't > > work the first time, do it again. The crt is already toast so you > don't > > have > > alot to lose. Before trying all this, check the G1 pin when it's > > happening. > > Should be around 21 volts or so. If you're getting more than 100, then > > the > > G1 bypass cap is bad. HTH > > Terry H. > > The TV Shop > > Gonzales, Tx > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 3:04 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA F27672ET CTC187BD2 > > > > > > > I have seen this problem with Zenith picture tubes, and the cause is > a > > > bad connection inside the picture tube. I have seen it twice with > 20" > > > RCA's. HTH > > > > > > Kevin Wilks > > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair > > > Penticton BC Canada > > > kevintv@xxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Bowman > > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:23 PM > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [TechAssist] RCA F27672ET CTC187BD2 > > > > > > I worked on this unit last week for bowed picture and it turned out > > that > > > cc4407 was the problem. Set worked fine for 2 days in shop. Customer > > > takes it home and calls the next day and says that the picture is > goes > > > very dark. I put it on my bench with nice picture, then 5 minutes > > later > > > it went dark. Screen control is ok, it adjusts, just very dark > video. > > > Even the menu is very dark. I tried freezing to bring video back, > but > > no > > > go. Any tips on this one? 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