Had this one come in on Friday, haven't had much of a chance to look at it yet. It has some weird symptoms. When you first plug it in it will come on with channel 2 on screen. It will have pic. and aud. but pic has light and dark bars about 1 in wide. You can do what you like but it won't do anything else,the OSD comes up fine and the chn numbers come up but they wont change the station. You can autoprogram it but it stays on channel 2 After awhile it will turn itself off or if you channel change it set shuts itself off. When it goes off it will not come back on. It will click the relay 3 times, after you press on, but nothing comes up. To get to the start you must pull the AC for 5min before it will try to start. The only thing I checked and its OK is the B+ on the H/O. Buck Pasher Buck's TV Gander Newfoundland Canada 709-256-7738 (Fax & Phone) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/