This is totally dead, no LED lites, no movement, nothing. Fuses all OK. There is about +12VDC at collector of power relay transistor Q801. Push power while monitoring Q801's base and nothing. A metal bolt fell out os the chassis so I fear a short I can't find. Aside from the bolt is there anything that's a repeat offender with these? Phil Bader -- Philip Bader Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 Fax (863) 299-8821 email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Set Vacation mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=set%20techassist%20vacation Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/