I got the service manual for this Pioneer, ABL line seems ok, Y in at the jungle IC pin 58 looks good with a staircase signal but the R,G and B outputs at pins 29, 30 and 31 look bad, the stairs steps are almost level at the top. Brightness and contrast adjustments have no effect although the numbers change from -32 to +31. The jungle IC has been replaced. I'm now thinking that the micro or eeprom may be bad. Would anyone have any knowledge or ideas on this problem? Thanks, The Old Master Technician ******************************** Since 1972 * Jim Myers * Telrad Electronics * Fort Wayne Indiana * ******************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is accessible to the general public through search engines. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Set Vacation mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=set%20techassist%20vacation Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/