Just a thought but I always told technicians to explain the changes that may take place BEFORE the repair. Keep a list in your tool box. After the repair if you see one of the symptoms point it out to the customer. Saves a lot of animosity and builds trust and confidence. Hollis Bates, Field Engineer-retired, Lewiston, Maine, HSWAD@xxxxxxx In a message dated 9/27/03 7:08:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, grndmstrg@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Subj: [TechAssist] Re: Picture Quality Issue - ALL NTSC PTV's > Date: 9/27/03 7:08:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:grndmstrg@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>grndmstrg@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A> > Reply-to: <A > HREF="mailto:techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > This has always been a possible problem when cleaning screens, lens and new > fluid etc. you restore the sharpness causing these normally occurring > defects to reappear. I had customer's remarks from "looks like new" to > "what's all that noise in picture". Usually resetting the sharpness to > default (usually half way) takes care of the problem for most people. I > personally like it set near sharper end. > > > > George > Afana Electronics > Moreno Valley, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn Larkman" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 2:29 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Picture Quality Issue - ALL NTSC PTV's > > > >Thought I would pick the brain trust on this one and see if any of you had > a > >better explanation for this than I could come up with. > > > >On most of the large PTV's I repair, after cleaning the optics and > returning > >the set to normal operating condition I have often had my customers take > >issue with the flickering effect noticeable on fine graphics, such as a > >sattelite reciever menu or the emblems on some stations, or the sports > >scores on a footy game. > >The flickering is most noticeable on a white line, for example, running > >horizontally where the line appears to be between two scanning lines. I'm > >sure you all know what I'm referring to. It can also be seen to a lesser > >degree on say a 27" direct view set. > >I can usually explain this away to most customers for what it is, a result > >of the number of scanning lines being only 525 as well as it being > >interlaced scanning,( at least thats what I put it down to....maybe I'm > >wrong) as it is not noticeable when watching a normal picture without > fine > >graphics or text, but my lawyer wannabe customer on this particular set is > >threatening legal action and has, of course, contacted his credit card > >company to fight the charge as a result of the completely "inadequate > >picture quality" > >For reference, this is a 7 year old 45" mitsubishi. BTW, the picture looks > a > >million bucks considering the age of the set. > > > >My question is this.. are any of you aware of a website, for example, > where > >this issue is listed and explained, perhaps better than I can explain, in > a > >laymans format that anyone could understand? > >I thought some of the sites where people are encouraged to enter their > >service menus and really screw their sets up might have a reference to > this > >in terms of extolling the virtues of HDTV as opposed to NTSC but have had > no > >luck. > >I simply want to have a little more ammunition for the credit card company > >when they call than me other than me simply saying its the way it is on > the > >setup he's got and thats it. > >I would also be interested to hear of any suggestions, tips, stories or > >amusing anecdotes with regard to how the rest of you handle these type of > >customers. You know the kind.......zero to dxxkhead in less than a minute. > >Thanks for any advice. > > > >Glenn Larkman > >Audiotech > >256 Nth Hwy 101 > >ENCINITAS CA 92024 > >760 944 9048 > >FAX 944 0345 > >mail to"mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" > >"www.audiotech.net" > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > * > >Classifieds! Buy or Sell! > >http://sell.tech-assist.org > >The Tech Address Book: > >http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/contact.htm > >Add a Repair Tip Here, or Change/Remove your Email Address: > >http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.htm > >Lost Password: > >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Lost your Login Info?". > >Email Archives: > >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > > Classifieds! 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