[TechAssist] Re: Philips SSC192 TV/VCR need info
- From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:00:11 -0400
Thanks Jerry I'll have to pull the chassis because the motor board is fixed
on the VCR carriage underneath (YUK) what a design. Customer refused to fix
it so it's mine. May just get rid of it as a TV.
Al Marquardt
ampm@xxxxxxx
Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
206 W Main
Girardville Pa. 17935
----- Original Message -----
From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:41 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips SSC192 TV/VCR need info
> OK, that was the next generation, because they had so much trouble with
> the
> type of ribbon cable connectors they used and they didnt want to spend the
> money for real ones or provide enough cable length to let you work on it
> without desoldering.
> With this generation, if anything locks the loading motor, the loading
> driver chip blows up. Usually you can see it blistered or having a tiny
> hole
> blown in it. That chip is usually on the capstan motor. It is not
> available,
> you have to buy the capstan motor, about $11. There was one series where
> the
> loading driver IC was in with the cylinder driver IC and was located on
> the
> main pcb. You should be able to tell which it is from your print.
> Sometimes
> the brush arms in the loading motor are also burned up. You can tell by
> running the loading motor from external power. By letting the chips blow
> up
> they saved needing to fuse the motors.
> Jerry Silverman
> Greentron Inc
> 4 Newland Ave
> Greenville SC 29609
> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:00 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips SSC192 TV/VCR need info
>
>
>> Thanks for the reply but this one is soldered in everywhere. To take the
>> deck off you have to desolder all connections. Pretty stupid idea.
>> Al Marquardt
>> ampm@xxxxxxx
>> Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
>> 206 W Main
>> Girardville Pa. 17935
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:59 PM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips SSC192 TV/VCR need info
>>
>>
>> >I believe that was the model year when Funai introduced the vcr deck
>> >chassis
>> > that plugged itself in using ribbon cables. Sometimes the plastic cable
>> > clamp would let the cable slip so that it didnt really plug in.
> Sometimes
>> > the traces on the ribbon cables would seperate from the plastic and
>> > roll
>> > up
>> > and you would lose a connection to audio, RF, or loading motor.
> Sometimes
>> > you could roll the trace back against the plastic and carefully plug it
>> > in.
>> > If not, you had to buy the loading motor to get the loading motor/AC
> head
>> > cable.
>> > Jerry Silverman
>> > Greentron Inc
>> > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
>> > Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>> > greentron@xxxxxxx
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
>> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 9:36 AM
>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips SSC192 TV/VCR need info
>> >
>> >
>> >> Model year is 2000.
>> >> Al Marquardt
>> >> ampm@xxxxxxx
>> >> Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
>> >> 206 W Main
>> >> Girardville Pa. 17935
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 7:25 PM
>> >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips SSC192 TV/VCR need info
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > What is the model year?
>> >> > Jerry Silverman
>> >> > Greentron Inc
>> >> > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
>> >> > Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>> >> > greentron@xxxxxxx
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
>> >> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 1:46 PM
>> >> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips SSC192 TV/VCR need info
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Yes the TV part works. The power supply is all there ( I think) but
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Signal coming out of the Micro to the motor seems to be missing.
>> >> >> The
>> >> > Sensor
>> >> >> voltage is getting to the micro, so if it is the sensor signal that
>> > turns
>> >> > on
>> >> >> the motor then I have a bad Micro I guess. I think Pin 82 is the
> load
>> >> >> carriage pin and nothing happening there. Thanks for the response.
>> >> >> Al Marquardt
>> >> >> ampm@xxxxxxx
>> >> >> Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
>> >> >> 206 W Main
>> >> >> Girardville Pa. 17935
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 1:41 PM
>> >> >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips SSC192 TV/VCR need info
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I/R sensors are common with these, and any regulators with the
> "KIA"
>> >> >> > prefix suspect. Any KIA7805, KIA7806, etc. You replaced the HOT-
> do
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > understand the TV part now works OK?
>> >> >> > Maybe the customer was using it as just a TV when that failed.
> Maybe
>> >> >> > the deck and the HOT issue are unrelated and failed at different
>> > times.
>> >> >> > Some of these use small square pico type fuses around the SMPS.
>> >> >> > Check
>> >> >> > and components like that for opens.
>> >> >> > Phil Bader
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > From: al m <ampm@xxxxxxx>
>> >> >> > Date: Sunday, July 3, 2005 1:35 pm
>> >> >> > Subject: [TechAssist] Philips SSC192 TV/VCR need info
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Hope everyone is enjoying the Holidays. This unit won't accept a
>> >> >> >> tape. Does
>> >> >> >> the Start LED tell the micro to run the Motor? It looks like it
>> >> >> >> does. LED is
>> >> >> >> working but nothing coming out of the Micro to turn the motor
>> >> >> >> on.
>> >> >> >> Tested
>> >> >> >> motor and it works. I think that blocking the start sensor
>> >> >> >> should
>> >> >> >> turn the
>> >> >> >> motor on to the load the carriage, am I right on this? I have a
>> >> >> >> print.
>> >> >> >> Replaced Mode switch. Oh the unit had a shorted HOT when I got
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> the power
>> >> >> >> supply was squealing. I have tried it in the case to make sure
> the
>> >> >> >> light was
>> >> >> >> not screwing with it. Thanks.
>> >> >> >> Al Marquardt
>> >> >> >> ampm@xxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
>> >> >> >> 206 W Main
>> >> >> >> Girardville Pa. 17935
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
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