"Hats off" to Eric of EM Electronics in Canada for providing the fix below!! I would "ADD" this tip to all your software tips programs as I could not find it on any of mine! Make: Philips Model: TS2746C101 Chassis: F8 Problem: Vertical Lines on Bottom Half of Picture Only With Some Retrace. Solution: Replace Vertical Orange-Drop Looking Capacitor C2409 0.22uF Located in Front of Vertical Output IC. Capacitor Changed value from .22uF to 700pF. Change Cap Even If Tests Good! >From: <tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips F8 - Vert Problem >Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:08:19 -0230 > >Hi Dan check this out Eric >VERTICAL, LINES ON BOTTOM HALF OF PICTURE REPLACE 2409 0.22UF SHOWS GOOD > >E M Electronics >Deer Lake NL >Canada >tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >eric.manuel@xxxxxxxxx >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan Garris" <dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:31 PM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips F8 - Vert Problem > > > > Thanks Max, I do have the Sams #4596 to go by for now. I was just hoping > > some other Tech has ran across this odd vertical problem on these common > > Philips F8 Chassis. I am at home right now but will troubleshoot more in >the > > morning. Thanks again Max for the very kind offer. > > > > Dan Garris > > Garris TV > > New Bern, NC > > dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx > > (252) 638-4477 > > > > >From: mebonnell@xxxxxxxxx (Old TV Man) > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips F8 - Vert Problem > > >Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:29:57 -0500 > > > > > >Dan I have the schematic if you want any of it scanned. > > > > > >Max Bonnell > > >Bonnell TV > > >Robinson, IL > > > > > >Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx From: > > >dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx(Dan=A0Garris) Date: Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 5:03pm > > >(CDT+1) To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips > > >F8 - Vert Problem? Reply=A0to: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > >Thats what I thought as well. I have no Yoke buzzing and the picture >has > > >no Convergence problems or keystoning - just the bottom half of the > > >picture has "lots of lines" in it. You can see thru the lines and make > > >out the bottom of the picture and when you change channels the >On-screen > > >display (which shows at the top of the picture) can be seen retracing >at > > >the bottom of the screen along with the lines in the bottom of the > > >screen. The top half is fine. I even replaced C2489 even though it > > >tested ok with the ESR meter. I still have the problem. I've not seen > > >this problem on the F8 before! > > > > > >Dan Garris > > >Garris TV > > >New Bern, NC > > >dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx > > >(252) 638-4477 > > > > > >From: "John at Main TV" <maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips F8 - Vert Problem? > > >Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:47:15 -0600 > > > > > >The F8 is very common for yoke problems but your symptom does not sound > > >like > > >a yoke. It usually causes bad convergence or a buzz. The only way that >I > > >know to check is by substitution from another 27 ". Or if you swap one > > >from a 25", it will work but the convergence will be way off. The cost > > >of the yoke is around $50. The common problem for foldover on the >bottom > > >is C2489. John. > > > > > >John Mielke > > >Main TV > > >636 main St. > > >Longmont, Co > > >phone 303 776 6955 > > >fax 303 776 0792 > > >maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Dan Garris" <dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:19 PM > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Philips F8 - Vert Problem? > > > > > >Make: =A0 Philips 27" TV > > >Model: =A0 TS2746 C101 > > >Chassis: F8 > > > > > >Has vertical lines (bad vertical foldover) only on "bottom half" of > > >picture. Top half of picture looks fine. I replaced the STV9379FA > > >Vertical output > > >IC > > >(no change) and checked all vertical caps and C2489 (all ok) (no >change) > > >also checked R3409 & R3488 out of circuit (they were ok). TV does not >go > > >into shutdown nor does it have any keystone effect, just bad Vert > > >foldover on bottom half of picture. Tips say maybe bad Yoke? > > >BTW, This is "NOT" the common bright screen symptom caused by R3340 on > > >the CRT board. This set stays on and has a picture. Anyone seen this > > >problem? > > >Is > > >it the Yoke? > > > > > >Dan Garris > > >Garris TV > > >New Bern, NC > > >dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx > > >(252) 638-4477 > > >---------------------------------------------- > > >--- > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- > > >Lost Password: > > >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >Email Archives: > > >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lost Password: >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >Email Archives: >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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