I have a Sencore VP301 HD sig gen. I can cut off any or all three guns, and it has patterns that allow centering, edges,grids,black,etc. Probably that would help. I like it because if I want to do an electrical focus on the three tubes,I don't have to access the CRT's to cover the two so I only see the third. I just extinguish, say, R7B, and focus green.That's a help. BTW this whole family are smokers.Smells like an ashtray.I'm sure the lenses and mirror are yucky. Thanks, Phil Phil Bader, Pres. Jan Phyl TV Inc Winter Haven, Fl (863) 299-8821 estab. 1976 ----- Original Message ----- From: Damon <damoneb@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:53 am Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips 50P8341 ( PTV915 ) shuts off in 6 hours. save SSB settings before replacing? > "String and Tape" is just bringing up the convergence grid and > running a > string up/down and left/right thru the crosshairs displayed. It > gives you a > SQUARE picture/straight lines.......but it doesn't guarantee > linearity or > that the crosshairs are "on target". Not without the Mylar alignment > templates..... > > But it's close enough, and you'd have to have those cross hairs > REALLY OUT > OF WHACK for it to throw off the picture enough to WARRANT the > need to do it > with the Mylar template. > So far most of the SSBs may need SOME alignment.....or be too > close to > require any at all. > > Grab a ball of string and some tape to create your own grid. I > think it will > pass muster with you and the customer. > > Damon B > Telrad Electronics > Fort Wayne IN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:56 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips 50P8341 ( PTV915 ) shuts off in > 6 hours. > save SSB settings before replacing? > > > > I do see the service manual says "If SSB (or LSB) is replaced, I may > > need to do an in-depth geometry before convergence is adjusted. > > I see my 50" needs template # ST4169. I do not have it, so > *share with > > me the "string and tape" procedure*, please! (manual leaves this > out) ;-) > > Thanks, > > Phil > > > > Philip Bader > > Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) > > 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 > > Fax (863) 299-8821 > > email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > personal/ alt. email: pbader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > see our ad at: > > > http://jan-phyl-television-pc-monitor- > service.9601288257006.worldpages-ads.com/ > > > > > > > > Damon wrote: > > > > >I just replaced 2 SSB's in the last week and 1 was No ADJUST , > the other > was > > >Convergence alignment. > > >If you have an Alignment template, take it with you, if not use > Stringand > > >Tape. > > >I did it by eye......;-) > > > > > >Damon B > > >Telrad Electronics > > >Fort Wayne IN > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:09 AM > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Philips 50P8341 ( PTV915 ) shuts off in 6 > hours.save > > >SSB settings before replacing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>I think the SSB module is the culprit in my set. > > >>Now, to avoid all the necessary realignment caused by changing > this SSB, > > >>and since it takes a long time to shut down (6 hrs?) can, and > should I > > >>save the parameters from the old SSB and plug these into the > new one? > > >>if I should, how would I go about this? Exactly what > parameters are lost > > >>when replacing it? > > >>(Not much info on this here) > > >>Phil > > >> > > >>Philip Bader > > >>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) > > >>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 > > >>Fax (863) 299-8821 > > >>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>personal/ alt. email: pbader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>see our ad at: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >http://jan-phyl-television-pc-monitor- > service.9601288257006.worldpages-ads. > com/ > > > > > > > > >> > > >>Phil Bader wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Customer said this was at another shop a long time.He said it > used to > > >>>shut off much more frequently. The tech I know replaced the front > > >>>tactile switches thinking that was it. Don't know what > else.Seems after > > >>>whatever the tech did, the length between shutdowns lengthened. > > >>>I know it looks like they are smokers. Are we looking at the > infamous> >>>SSB issue? > > >>>I have not verified the 6 hour time frame yet. > > >>>Phil Bader > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>----------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > >> > > >> > > >--- > > > > > > > > >>This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech- > assist.org/remove.htm> >>Set Vacation > > >> > > >> > > >mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=set%20techassist%20vacation > > > > > > > > >>Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > Problems?".> >>Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/> >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > -- > > >This Email List is Public. 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