Same mech as PV4608/11/17/51/58 and GE VG4030/31 If tape is carefully pushed in it will load OK every time, if pushed slightly crooked the loading cage will jam and the gear on the loading cage will slip putting the gear on cage out of time. I have tried another complete cage and also replaced the slide mech on the cage with a new one. Metal gear that drives loading cage looks good. Anyone see this before, is this just an other bad design? Thanks for any info Al's TV-Electronics Pembroke Ont. Canada ***************************************************************************** The Tech Address Book: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/contact.html Add a Repair Tip Here, or Change/Remove your Email Address: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Lost your Login Info?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/