Seems to me that my old B&K TV analyst had the "vector scope" gel to put in front of the CRT in the unit. The place where the regular test pattern gel usually stayed. Can't say as I ever used it. Walter --- J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote: > We designed it when the color video cameras were > tube type and frequent > adjustments were needed using a NTSC Vectorscope. > The only one available > then was made by Tectronix and cost $4700. Our > little $325 box turned an > ordinary oscilloscope into an NTSC Vectorscope. > Just about that time, > Hitachi came out with a $1500 NTSC Vectorscope. I > bought one of the Hitachi > units as a calibration verification for our box. > I dont ever recall having > to use the NTSC Vectorscope for solid state image > sensors except for > diagnostic purposes when the colors were wierd. > Jerry Silverman > Greentron Inc > 4 Newland Ave > Greenville SC 29609 > 864 232 3889 > Fax 271 2080 > mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hoyt's TV" <hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:34 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! > > > > The few times I used it, it worked great. > > Then cameras became so cheap that people > wouldn't pay for that kind of > work > > anymore. > > Like replacing the 6 then 12 then 24 caps in > the Sonys. By the time they > > need repair, a new and better one was on sale > for a hundred dollars more > > that the repair cost of the old one. > > > > Russ Hoyt > > Hoyt's TV > > Exeter, NH > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:42 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! > > > > > > > Yes. We designed and made those years ago. > Most of our sales were to > > > Philips. About the time that the sales > tapered off, RCA, who used to > make > > > ICs, discontinued the chips we were using > and I decided not to redesign > > to > > > use other chips. > > > Jerry Silverman > > > Greentron Inc > > > 4 Newland Ave > > > Greenville SC 29609 > > > 864 232 3889 > > > Fax 271 2080 > > > mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Hoyt's TV" <hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:17 PM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Jerry, are you responsible for that little > green box that I have > sitting > > > on > > > > top of one of my scopes? > > > > I believe I was coerced into buying it by > that master of all snake oil > > > > salesmen, Jerry Kent. > > > > > > > > Russ Hoyt > > > > Hoyt's TV > > > > Exeter, NH > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:07 PM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gee! I always thought you were supposed > to go down with your ship. > > > > > Jerry Silverman > > > > > Greentron Inc > > > > > 4 Newland Ave > > > > > Greenville SC 29609 > > > > > 864 232 3889 > > > > > Fax 271 2080 > > > > > mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "electronicrepair" > <electronicrepair@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:36 AM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** > Notice!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me put in my 2 cents. I saw the > writing on the wall a few > years > > > ago > > > > > when > > > > > > the prices of the TV sets were > nose-diving down. > > > > > > I started thinking that I had been in > this business since 1972, > the > > TV > > > > > > business was very good to me, and I > love it, but the writing was > on > > > the > > > > > wall > > > > > > and the way things were going, retiring > from this business was not > > > going > > > > > to > > > > > > happen, so I decided to find full time > employment in a different > > > field. > > > > > > I started taking classes on PLC and in > the industrial electrical > > > field, > > > > so > > > > > a > > > > > > couple years ago I got a job as an > industrial electrician in a > large > > > > plant > > > > > > here with descent pay and great > benefits, I also do TV repair as a > > par > > > > > time > > > > > > business, for me this worked out great > > > > > > Thanks, Mark > > > > > > Electronic Repair Services > > > > > > 48 W. James st. > > > > > > Lancaster, PA 17603 > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:08 > AM > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** > Notice!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Walter, > > > > > > > I was checking out a Cosco store the > other day,...and seeing all > > the > > > > new > > > > > > > TVs, and new Technology sets on the > market,...it's no wonder why > > > > people > > > > > > have > > > > > > > stopped bringing their old TVs in for > repair, and just buying > new. > > > > > > > Yes,...the prices are still high on > the HDTV sets, but, they > won't > > > > stay > > > > > > that > > > > > > > way for long. I don't think we will > ever be able to make much > > money > > > > from > > > > > > > trying to repair these new > sets,...even when they are out of > > > warrenty. > > > > > You > > > > > > > guys that have managed to keep some > ASC status on some brands > > might > > > > have > > > > > a > > > > > > > chance,....but,...the rest of us are > "bound to be doomed". > > > > > > > I hate telling it like it > is,....but,....we have to think about > > our > > > > > > future, > > > > > > > and make some changes. We are on our > own in this respect,....the > > > > service > > > > > > > associations, and the manufacturers > offer NO help,...and don't > > > really > > > > > give > > > > > > a > > > > > > > dam what happens to us,...and that's > a fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LLW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LeRoy Westlund > > > > > > > Westlund TV & Electronics > > > > > > > 97 North Main > "Where there's a > > > will,... > > > > > > > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 > There's always a way." > > > > > > > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > > > > > > > mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: walter wood > <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:25 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** > Notice!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Larry, I understand that 2006 has > been mandated, > > > > > > > >but HD was supposed to have been > reality years ago. > > > > > > > >As I understand it, NO non HD set > will work (this > > > > > > > >includes the HD monitors) once > everything is being > > > > > > > >broadcast in HD, EXCEPT that an HD > converter box is > > > > > > > >used. > > > > > > > >All the box will do is extend the > life of the NON > > > > > > > >HD tv. > > > > > > > >It will NOT put a HD picture on the > screen. > > > > > > > >Now, how many $300 boxes are people > going to buy to > > > > > > > >put on $100 wally world tvs? > > > > > > > >Remember also that although HD is > digital, being > > > > > > > >digital does NOT make it HD. > > > > > > > >Walter > > > > > > > >--- larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> true, but! > > > > > > > >> digital tv may make these 3 year > or older tv > > > > > > > >> useless. > > > > > > > >> i am under the impression they > wont work after > > > > > > > >> 2007. > > > > > > > >> is this true? > > > > > > > >> Larry > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Tel-Tek wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > John; > > > > > > > >> > Most likely > > > > > > > >> > Most of us will retire or die > off with our > > > > > > > >> Customer base. > > > > > > > >> > Older people will hold onto > their Console TV's > > > > > > > >> and Stereos. If parts are > > > > > > > >> > available, they will have them > repaired. > > > > > > > >> > I could take the year off, but > December Older > > > > > > > >> Folks want their Phonographs > > > > > > > >> > working, lay on a good supply of > needles, some > > > > > > > >> WD40, some lube, and idler > > > > > > > >> > tires. You are good to go. Keep > in mind that > > > > > > > >> most are on a fixed Income, and > > > > > > > >> > keep it Kosher.;-) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > -Ed- > > > > > > > >> > Tel-Tek Electronics > > > > > > > >> > Ontario-Canada > > > > > > > >> > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >> > From: "John at Main TV" > > > > > > > >> <maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 > 7:12 PM > > > > > > > >> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** > Notice!!!!! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>I, too, have noticed the aging > of the service > > > > > > > >> industry. We have 3 > > > > > > > >> >>technicians. The owner is aged > 69 ( and still > > > > > > > >> makes pick-ups and > > > > > > > >> >>deliveries). The second is aged > 65 and I am > > > > > > > >> aged 57 (the youngster). We > > > > > > > >> >>are wondering if we can hang on > until hi-def > > > > > > > >> becomes common. John. > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>John Mielke > > > > > > > >> >>Main TV > > > > > > > >> >>636 main St. > > > > > > > >> >>Longmont, Co > > > > > > > >> >>phone 303 776 6955 > > > > > > > >> >>fax 303 776 0792 > > > > > > > >> >>maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > >> >>----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >> >>From: "Doug Keller" > <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > >> >>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 > 9:59 AM > > > > > > > >> >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** > Notice!!!!! > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>>Is it just me, or is everyone > on this list a > > > > > > > >> "mature" (for lack of a > > > > > > > >> >>>better word) technician. Is > anyone on this > > > > > > > >> list under, say, 30? Is no > > > > > > > >> >>>one young even getting into > this business? I > > > > > > > >> will state, in my opinion, > > > > > > > >> >>>that if they DON'T get into > this that in > > > > > > > >> itself is a plus to their > > > > > > > >> >>>success in life. > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>>Doug Keller > > > > > > > >> >>>Wis-Kel Electronics > > > > > > > >> >>>101 Freeland Ave. > > > > > > > >> >>>Terra Alta, WV > > > > > > > >> >>>USA 26764 > > > > > > > >> >>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > >> >>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > >> >>>http://www.tech-assist.org > > > > > > > >> >>>"Learn from the mistakes of > others, because > > > > > > > >> you > > > > > > > >> >>>won't live long enough to make > them all > > > > > > > >> yourself" > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>>Kevin Harris wrote: > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>Happy Birthday JAY (sir) > > > > > > > >> >>>>always respect my elders > > > > > > > >> >>>>(you beat me, i turn 50 in > october) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>>>************************************************* > > > > > > > >> >>>>Kevin Harris > > > > > > > >> >>>>kharris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > >> >>>>800-638-3328 x1241 > > > > > > > >> >>>>Tritronics Inc. > > > > > > > >> >>>>Authorized parts for > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>Aiwa,Denon,Hitachi,JVC,NAP,RCA,Sanyo,Sony,Toshiba,Zenith > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>************************************************************************* > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > >> >>******************** > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >> >>>> From: Doug Keller > > > > > > > >> >>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > >> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 > 7:37 AM > > > > > > > >> >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] **** > Notice!!!!! > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> Your webmaster Jay hits the > big 50 today! > > > > > > > >> (donations may be made to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> "Old-Fogie Retired Techs > Home, Walla-Walla, > > > > > > > >> Washington) *laughs* > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> -- > > > > > > > >> >>>> Doug Keller > > > > > > > >> >>>> Wis-Kel Electronics > > > > > > > >> >>>> 101 Freeland Ave. > > > > > > > >> >>>> Terra Alta, WV > > > > > > > >> >>>> USA 26764 > > > > > > > >> >>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > >> >>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > >> >>>> http://www.tech-assist.org > > > > > > > >> >>>> "Learn from the mistakes of > others, because > > > > > > > >> you > > > > > > > >> >>>> won't live long enough to > make them all > > > > > > > >> yourself" > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>--- > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>>> Lost Password: > > > > > > > >> >>>> http://www.tech-assist.org > and select > > > > > > > >> "Login Problems?". > > > > > > > >> >>>> Email Archives: > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > >> >>-- > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>>>Lost Password: > > > > > > > >> >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org > and select "Login > > > > > > > >> Problems?". > > > > > > > >> >>>>Email Archives: > > > > > > > >> > >>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > >> >>--- > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>>Lost Password: > > > > > > > >> >>>http://www.tech-assist.org and > select "Login > > > > > > > >> Problems?". > > > > > > > >> >>>Email Archives: > > > > > > > >> > >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > --- > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>Lost Password: > > > > > > > >> >>http://www.tech-assist.org and > select "Login > > > > > > > >> Problems?". > > > > > > > >> >>Email Archives: > > > > > > > >> > >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > >> > Lost Password: > > > > > > > >> > http://www.tech-assist.org and > select "Login > > > > > > > >> Problems?". > > > > > > > >> > Email Archives: > > > > > > > >> > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > >> Schneider TV & Electronic Inc. > > > > > > > >> 5415 N. Wooster ave. > > > > > > > >> Dover, Ohio 44622 > > > > > > > >> www.geocities.com/schntv2000/ > > > > > > > >> 330-343-0768 FCC. first > class & Extra > > > > > > > >> class K8WLY > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > >> Lost Password: > > > > > > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org and > select "Login > > > > > > > >> Problems?". > > > > > > > >> Email Archives: > > > > > > > >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > > > > >Walter Wood > > > > > > > >Future Tech Home Center > > > > > > > >2786 Hwy. 43 N. > > > > > > > >Lawrenceburg Tn. 38464 > > > > > > > >931-829-3337 > > > > > > > >Fax 931-829-4044 > > > > > > > >mailto:wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > > > > > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > > > >Yahoo! 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