[TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Alliance).
- From: "Bruce Tiedeman" <btied@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:13:47 -0400
Really funny Al, am still laughing.!! You still have a good sense of humor.
Bruce.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Alliance).
> Yo Larry,
> Mount a Plasma TV on the mower,video pick up at the neighborhood
> pool,and watch pretty girls while you work.Record everything for winter
> use
> on your snow plow!
>
> Al Leatherman
> 224 RT. 46
> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> 973-361-5796
> WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "larry" <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:05 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Alliance).
>
>
>> LeRoy, maybe you found our answer,
>> we can move our businesses to his town, and all live happily ever after.
>> lol
>> Seriously though, I used to feel like him a year ago.
>> but, with the low prices of new tvs , it finally hit us in ohio, what
>> can you do when no one walks through the door.
>> When their set brakes they just go to WalMart instead of my shop.
>> I hear about desersify, well i been thinking, but cant come up with
>> anything beyond tv , audio, computer, microwave repair.. that i am
>> qualified to do.
>> oh yes , one more thing, i am great at mowing grass.
>> lol. maybe that is it, yard care service.
>> My sign could read, schneider tv and lawn care. I could buy my equipment
>> at WalMart.
>> What else can i do except laugh,.
>> I keep reading hoping some one has a better plan they will share with
>> us.
>> Larry
>> :)
>>
>>
>> Schneider TV & Electronic Inc.
>> 5415 N. Wooster ave.
>> Dover, Ohio 44622 www.geocities.com/schntv2000/
>> 330-343-0768 FCC. first class & Extra class K8WLY
>>
>>
>>
>> LeRoy Westlund wrote:
>>
>>>What is it about Florida, anyway,...that all the servicers down that way
>>>seem to always have more business then they can handle. I see many other
>>>parts of the country, that are struggling just like I am ?
>>>
>>>With the exception of most of the big city shops, people in other smaller
>>>markets seem to hardly have enough of the high end stuff, to keep thier
>>>doors open. We are already experiencing the slowdown that is sure to get
>>>worse, with the introduction of an NSA into the service industry.
>>>
>>>We can't all move to Florida, or a major city in another state.
>>>This has not been necessary in past years, and shouldn't be necassary in
>>>the
>>>future,...but,...that's exactly where things are headed. Consumers will
>>>have
>>>to travel 100 miles or more to find one of these regional service
>>>providers
>>>that you are talking about.
>>>
>>>This is a BIG country,...and there is more to it then just having 500 or
>>>so
>>>service centers scattered about with about 10 in each state. We are
>>>already
>>>down to about 7,000 service centers. If 6,500 of them close thier doors,
>>>many of the best, and most experienced technicians, will be looking for a
>>>job at the existing 500 service centers.
>>>I guess you expect to be one of the surviving 500 ?
>>>
>>>LLW
>>>
>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Leonard Caillouet <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Date: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:44 PM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Association).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Exactly how am I doomed?
>>>>
>>>>Actually, I think the NSA project is likely to be a spectacular start-up
>>>>followed by a quick decline. They may secure some initially lucrative
>>>>
>>>>
>>>deals
>>>
>>>
>>>>with some manufacturers then they will get squeezed to reduce costs just
>>>>as
>>>>they are experiencing the pains of any growing business. As affiliates
>>>>figure out that they can do better in their own ventures they will be
>>>>left
>>>>with few experienced technicians just as they are having to become more
>>>>efficient to survive. Then the principles will sell out, the buyers
>>>>will
>>>>discover an empty shell, and it will be history. The initial investors
>>>>that get out soon enough will be the only ones that make anything.
>>>>
>>>>The key to success in the service business will always be the skill of
>>>>the
>>>>technician and large operations are rarely able to manage them
>>>>effectively.
>>>>The mid-sized service operation is the only level at which the industry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>
>>>>ever be able to operate efficiently for products other than carry-in
>>>>items
>>>>that can easily be shipped to plants with enough volume to have monkeys
>>>>repairing the same piece over and over. The money in the service
>>>>business
>>>>is in the larger pieces that UPS and companies like United Radio will
>>>>not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>be
>>>
>>>
>>>>able to deal with. That stuff, along with installation, programming,
>>>>and
>>>>custom support will necessarily be done best by smaller, more stable
>>>>businesses that do not treat clients and products as commodities.
>>>>
>>>>I also think a lot of one man shops will go away in favor of more
>>>>efficient
>>>>slightly larger, but local and regional servicers. Some of us who are
>>>>carefully defining our markets and are efficient will grow and survive.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps you should be looking for a new business model if things are so
>>>>
>>>>
>>>bad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Leonard Caillouet
>>>>Electronics World
>>>>1261 NW 76 Blvd
>>>>Gainesville, FL 32606
>>>>352-332-5608
>>>>FAX 352-332-5668
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 11:05 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Association).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And just how long do you plan on making this so called profit ?
>>>>Your lively hood is in jeopardy,...and you don't even realize
>>>>it,...unless
>>>>you plan on joining up with the elete, you will be doomed, just like the
>>>>rest of us.
>>>>
>>>>IMO,
>>>>LLW
>>>>
>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
>>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Leonard Caillouet <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Date: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:32 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Association).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't support NSA. I just concern myself with things that I can
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>control,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>like understanding how to make a profit in my market and focusing on
>>>>>doing
>>>>>things better.
>>>>>
>>>>>Leonard G. Caillouet
>>>>>Electronics World
>>>>>1261 NW 76 Blvd
>>>>>Gainesville, FL 32606
>>>>>352-332-5608
>>>>>352-332-5668 FAX
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:11 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] NSA (National Service Association).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Perry,
>>>>>There is no need to stop helping each other, just because of this
>>>>>discussion.
>>>>>It was not my intent to cause hard feelings with each other.
>>>>>Don't take it so personal. We only want to find ways to stop the NSA
>>>>>movement, even though there seems to be a few that do support it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am willing to here the other side of the coin.
>>>>>Why do you seem to support the NSA, and don't let it worry you ?
>>>>>Leonard,..or anyone else ? This is an open discussion,...NOT a bashing
>>>>>session.
>>>>>
>>>>>LLW
>>>>>
>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
>>>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Electric Medic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Date: Thursday, May 05, 2005 12:36 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent
>>>>>News
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>NSA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Leonard: What are you saying? It's not about fair competition, I
>>>>>>compete
>>>>>>everyday. It's about us sticking together to help each other survive,
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>taking up for these "savvy" business people. It's about some person
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>Van next door taking our business and us providing tech help to them
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>knowing. If I didn't know better I would think you were this
>>>>>>mysterious
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>man!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I see you have no problem being on this list helping or getting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>information.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't care how "savvy" this person may be, he doesn't know it all.
>>>>>>So
>>>>>>everyone on here, I will not be providing anymore tech help until I
>>>>>>know
>>>>>>where the enemies are! Maybe you could care less, but what if many did
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Heck, not getting one tip hurts us all. At least we don't have to help
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>savvy businessman and his buddies and not waste our time helping
>>>>>>others
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>rob us. Hey knowledge is power too, and we all discover a new Tech Tip
>>>>>>everyday, I used to share a Tip of the day, but..I have learned, not
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>do
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>that anymore. I have also decided not to put Tips in WinStips or any
>>>>>>Tip
>>>>>>program or Archive. If we all did this, and these people all would
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>invent the wheel, they wouldn't get to far. All it does is hurt the
>>>>>>whole
>>>>>>group when many of us are forced to hoard information, but if that is
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>only way I can fight it, I will.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Perry Bower
>>>>>>Electric Medic
>>>>>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>>>>>>http://www.electricmedic.com
>>>>>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
>>>>>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
>>>>>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
>>>>>>Phone: 706-863-3474
>>>>>>Fax: 706-863-2316
>>>>>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Leonard Caillouet
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:02 PM
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent
>>>>>>News / NSA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Probably because he is a savy businessman and does not waste his time
>>>>>>complaining about how the service market is changing but does
>>>>>>something
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>position himself to be more successful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Grow up guys. This is business. If you can't compete do something
>>>>>>else
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>go to work for someone who can. I don't recall anything in the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Constitution
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>that assures that independent servicers have a right to a part of the
>>>>>>market.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Leonard G. Caillouet
>>>>>>Electronics World
>>>>>>1261 NW 76 Blvd
>>>>>>Gainesville, FL 32606
>>>>>>352-332-5608
>>>>>>352-332-5668 FAX
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:05 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>News
>>>
>>>
>>>>>/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>NSA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How could one man or TV Shop owner have that much power over all the
>>>>>>rest
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>us? We outnumber him many times over. What makes him so special that
>>>>>>he
>>>>>>could change the repair business as we know it and take customers from
>>>>>>us
>>>>>>locally? How does he find the time or the money? Most of us can barely
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>make
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>ends meet and that is with tons of business. I would just like to know
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Perry Bower
>>>>>>Electric Medic
>>>>>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>>>>>>http://www.electricmedic.com
>>>>>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
>>>>>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
>>>>>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
>>>>>>Phone: 706-863-3474
>>>>>>Fax: 706-863-2316
>>>>>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:20 PM
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent News
>>>>>>/
>>>>>>NSA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK,...I hope I don't get in trouble,...but,..here is my solution.
>>>>>>In my opinion,..there is ONLY one man who can stop it,...and I'll
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>withhold
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>his name, until it becomes necessary to provide it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>He s a prominent member of NESDA.
>>>>>>He needs to be approuched by the members of this list, that "oppose"
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>formation of NSA. NOT just by the few renegade members that are
>>>>>>getting
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>bad reputation on NESDA from trying thier best to fight
>>>>>>back,...but,...by
>>>>>>recruiting some of the other members that are opposed, but have been
>>>>>>silently letting them do thier dirty work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You can't recruit them on NESDA, because they won't allow freedom of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>speech
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>on the NesdaNet. So recruit as many members of the TechAssist group
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>are
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>ALSO members of Nesda. They have NO power to bounce posts on THIS
>>>>>>list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Try the personal e-mail approuch first,...and try to set up a meeting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>him and (his group). Scedule it for the summer convention in Florida.
>>>>>>If
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>he
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>refuses to set up a discussion group, then corner him at the
>>>>>>convention,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>put some heat on him to stop the effort to establish the NSA project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't threaten him,...but,...if thier are enough of you that could
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>approuch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>him on a personal basis, and explain the devistation that will result
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>from
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>the formation of a National Servicing Network,....he might could be
>>>>>>pursuaded to drop his efforts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Remember,..."he" is the one who started it,...and he is most likly the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>"only
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>one" who can put an end to it. He has lots of power within the NESDA
>>>>>>organization, and that is the ONLY place that can handle a problem of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>this
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>magnitude. BUT,...they (NESDA), cannot handle the problem, unless they
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>are
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>PRESSURED to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>IMO only,
>>>>>>LLW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
>>>>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Doug Keller <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Date: Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:46 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>News
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Go ahead. It concerns everyone on this list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Doug Keller
>>>>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>>>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>>>>>>Terra Alta, WV
>>>>>>>USA 26764
>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm
>>>Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?".
>>>Appliance Repair List:
>>>http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app
>>>Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm
>> Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?".
>> Appliance Repair List:
>> http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app
>> Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
>>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm
> Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?".
> Appliance Repair List:
> http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app
> Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm
Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?".
Appliance Repair List: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app
Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
Other related posts:
