[TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Alliance).
- From: "Larry E" <videotech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:22:46 -0400
Guys, This is becoming a pissing match, everyone has an opinion, this is
the best TECH site on the web, let`s go back to helping each other fix
equipment and put this subject to bed, enough already, Larry E
Larry Eastman
American TV & Electronics
Crystal River, Fl. 34428
----- Original Message -----
From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:26 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] NSA (National Service Alliance).
> What is it about Florida, anyway,...that all the servicers down that way
> seem to always have more business then they can handle. I see many other
> parts of the country, that are struggling just like I am ?
>
> With the exception of most of the big city shops, people in other smaller
> markets seem to hardly have enough of the high end stuff, to keep thier
> doors open. We are already experiencing the slowdown that is sure to get
> worse, with the introduction of an NSA into the service industry.
>
> We can't all move to Florida, or a major city in another state.
> This has not been necessary in past years, and shouldn't be necassary in
the
> future,...but,...that's exactly where things are headed. Consumers will
have
> to travel 100 miles or more to find one of these regional service
providers
> that you are talking about.
>
> This is a BIG country,...and there is more to it then just having 500 or
so
> service centers scattered about with about 10 in each state. We are
already
> down to about 7,000 service centers. If 6,500 of them close thier doors,
> many of the best, and most experienced technicians, will be looking for a
> job at the existing 500 service centers.
> I guess you expect to be one of the surviving 500 ?
>
> LLW
>
> LeRoy Westlund
> Westlund TV & Electronics
> 97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
> Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leonard Caillouet <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:44 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Association).
>
>
> >Exactly how am I doomed?
> >
> >Actually, I think the NSA project is likely to be a spectacular start-up
> >followed by a quick decline. They may secure some initially lucrative
> deals
> >with some manufacturers then they will get squeezed to reduce costs just
as
> >they are experiencing the pains of any growing business. As affiliates
> >figure out that they can do better in their own ventures they will be
left
> >with few experienced technicians just as they are having to become more
> >efficient to survive. Then the principles will sell out, the buyers will
> >discover an empty shell, and it will be history. The initial investors
> >that get out soon enough will be the only ones that make anything.
> >
> >The key to success in the service business will always be the skill of
the
> >technician and large operations are rarely able to manage them
effectively.
> >The mid-sized service operation is the only level at which the industry
> will
> >ever be able to operate efficiently for products other than carry-in
items
> >that can easily be shipped to plants with enough volume to have monkeys
> >repairing the same piece over and over. The money in the service
business
> >is in the larger pieces that UPS and companies like United Radio will not
> be
> >able to deal with. That stuff, along with installation, programming, and
> >custom support will necessarily be done best by smaller, more stable
> >businesses that do not treat clients and products as commodities.
> >
> >I also think a lot of one man shops will go away in favor of more
efficient
> >slightly larger, but local and regional servicers. Some of us who are
> >carefully defining our markets and are efficient will grow and survive.
> >
> >Perhaps you should be looking for a new business model if things are so
> bad.
> >
> >Leonard Caillouet
> >Electronics World
> >1261 NW 76 Blvd
> >Gainesville, FL 32606
> >352-332-5608
> >FAX 352-332-5668
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 11:05 PM
> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Association).
> >
> >
> >And just how long do you plan on making this so called profit ?
> >Your lively hood is in jeopardy,...and you don't even realize
it,...unless
> >you plan on joining up with the elete, you will be doomed, just like the
> >rest of us.
> >
> >IMO,
> >LLW
> >
> >LeRoy Westlund
> >Westlund TV & Electronics
> >97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
> >Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
> >Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> >mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Leonard Caillouet <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Date: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:32 PM
> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: NSA (National Service Association).
> >
> >
> >>I don't support NSA. I just concern myself with things that I can
> control,
> >>like understanding how to make a profit in my market and focusing on
doing
> >>things better.
> >>
> >>Leonard G. Caillouet
> >>Electronics World
> >>1261 NW 76 Blvd
> >>Gainesville, FL 32606
> >>352-332-5608
> >>352-332-5668 FAX
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:11 PM
> >>Subject: [TechAssist] NSA (National Service Association).
> >>
> >>
> >>Perry,
> >>There is no need to stop helping each other, just because of this
> >>discussion.
> >>It was not my intent to cause hard feelings with each other.
> >>Don't take it so personal. We only want to find ways to stop the NSA
> >>movement, even though there seems to be a few that do support it.
> >>
> >>I am willing to here the other side of the coin.
> >>Why do you seem to support the NSA, and don't let it worry you ?
> >>Leonard,..or anyone else ? This is an open discussion,...NOT a bashing
> >>session.
> >>
> >>LLW
> >>
> >>LeRoy Westlund
> >>Westlund TV & Electronics
> >>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
> >>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
> >>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> >>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Electric Medic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Date: Thursday, May 05, 2005 12:36 PM
> >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent
News
> >/
> >>NSA.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Leonard: What are you saying? It's not about fair competition, I
compete
> >>>everyday. It's about us sticking together to help each other survive,
not
> >>>taking up for these "savvy" business people. It's about some person in
a
> >>>Van next door taking our business and us providing tech help to them
and
> >>not
> >>>knowing. If I didn't know better I would think you were this mysterious
> >>man!
> >>>I see you have no problem being on this list helping or getting
> >>information.
> >>>I don't care how "savvy" this person may be, he doesn't know it all. So
> >>>everyone on here, I will not be providing anymore tech help until I
know
> >>>where the enemies are! Maybe you could care less, but what if many did
> >>this.
> >>>Heck, not getting one tip hurts us all. At least we don't have to help
> >this
> >>>savvy businessman and his buddies and not waste our time helping others
> to
> >>>rob us. Hey knowledge is power too, and we all discover a new Tech Tip
> >>>everyday, I used to share a Tip of the day, but..I have learned, not to
> do
> >>>that anymore. I have also decided not to put Tips in WinStips or any
Tip
> >>>program or Archive. If we all did this, and these people all would have
> to
> >>>invent the wheel, they wouldn't get to far. All it does is hurt the
whole
> >>>group when many of us are forced to hoard information, but if that is
the
> >>>only way I can fight it, I will.
> >>>
> >>>Perry Bower
> >>>Electric Medic
> >>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >>>http://www.electricmedic.com
> >>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> >>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> >>>Phone: 706-863-3474
> >>>Fax: 706-863-2316
> >>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Leonard Caillouet
> >>>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:02 PM
> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent
> >>>News / NSA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Probably because he is a savy businessman and does not waste his time
> >>>complaining about how the service market is changing but does something
> to
> >>>position himself to be more successful.
> >>>
> >>>Grow up guys. This is business. If you can't compete do something else
> or
> >>>go to work for someone who can. I don't recall anything in the
> >>Constitution
> >>>that assures that independent servicers have a right to a part of the
> >>>market.
> >>>
> >>>Leonard G. Caillouet
> >>>Electronics World
> >>>1261 NW 76 Blvd
> >>>Gainesville, FL 32606
> >>>352-332-5608
> >>>352-332-5668 FAX
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:05 PM
> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent
> News
> >>/
> >>>NSA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>How could one man or TV Shop owner have that much power over all the
rest
> >>of
> >>>us? We outnumber him many times over. What makes him so special that he
> >>>could change the repair business as we know it and take customers from
us
> >>>locally? How does he find the time or the money? Most of us can barely
> >make
> >>>ends meet and that is with tons of business. I would just like to know
> >>that.
> >>>
> >>>Perry Bower
> >>>Electric Medic
> >>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >>>http://www.electricmedic.com
> >>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> >>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> >>>Phone: 706-863-3474
> >>>Fax: 706-863-2316
> >>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund
> >>>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:20 PM
> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent News
/
> >>>NSA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>OK,...I hope I don't get in trouble,...but,..here is my solution.
> >>>In my opinion,..there is ONLY one man who can stop it,...and I'll
> withhold
> >>>his name, until it becomes necessary to provide it.
> >>>
> >>>He s a prominent member of NESDA.
> >>>He needs to be approuched by the members of this list, that "oppose" to
> >the
> >>>formation of NSA. NOT just by the few renegade members that are getting
a
> >>>bad reputation on NESDA from trying thier best to fight
back,...but,...by
> >>>recruiting some of the other members that are opposed, but have been
> >>>silently letting them do thier dirty work.
> >>>
> >>>You can't recruit them on NESDA, because they won't allow freedom of
> >speech
> >>>on the NesdaNet. So recruit as many members of the TechAssist group
that
> >>are
> >>>ALSO members of Nesda. They have NO power to bounce posts on THIS list.
> >>>
> >>>Try the personal e-mail approuch first,...and try to set up a meeting
> with
> >>>him and (his group). Scedule it for the summer convention in Florida.
If
> >he
> >>>refuses to set up a discussion group, then corner him at the
convention,
> >>and
> >>>put some heat on him to stop the effort to establish the NSA project.
> >>>
> >>>Don't threaten him,...but,...if thier are enough of you that could
> >approuch
> >>>him on a personal basis, and explain the devistation that will result
> from
> >>>the formation of a National Servicing Network,....he might could be
> >>>pursuaded to drop his efforts.
> >>>
> >>>Remember,..."he" is the one who started it,...and he is most likly the
> >>"only
> >>>one" who can put an end to it. He has lots of power within the NESDA
> >>>organization, and that is the ONLY place that can handle a problem of
> this
> >>>magnitude. BUT,...they (NESDA), cannot handle the problem, unless they
> are
> >>>PRESSURED to do it.
> >>>
> >>>IMO only,
> >>>LLW
> >>>
> >>>LeRoy Westlund
> >>>Westlund TV & Electronics
> >>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
> >>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
> >>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> >>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Doug Keller <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Date: Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:46 AM
> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ServicePower Field Service Solutions Urgent
> News
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Go ahead. It concerns everyone on this list.
> >>>>
> >>>>Doug Keller
> >>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
> >>>>101 Freeland Ave.
> >>>>Terra Alta, WV
> >>>>USA 26764
> >>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>
>
>
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