The problem is new to me. When menu is brought up or pip function is activated there is a square area that I assume would be the PIP but there is no video in it and it moves from top to bottom like no vertical sync. If a signal is injected into an external input it does not change with exchange function. The picture is normal until the menu is up or PIP is selected.I have recapped the PIP bd. I have gone over my work with strong magnification. I have checked for eaten traces and bad feed throughs. If the PIP bd is by- passed the menu is stable. Has anyone ever had to replace the flatpack I/Cs on this board? Paul Paul ,B Central TV&Video Grover Beach Ca. ***************************************************************************** Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/