Believe it or not, if that Zener D4001 (i think) is off by 0.2 volts it will cause your problem, also found out it applies to Magnavox sets too. Used a variable power supply to replace zener voltages on one Tv and I got shrinkage, then vert bounce/full picture, then non linearity in the center or 2/3 up from the bottom, etc while adjusting the voltage from 9-11 volts. This zener can/will cause various symptoms, so if you're at your wits end, just replace the diode. Damon Brunger damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Telrad Electronic Services Ft Wayne, IN 46815 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Camboni" <geo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 7:46 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitsubishi VS4507R weird vertical problem > > Thank you Damon, I' ll find a way to re-check the voltages, but the zeners > are not shorted nor leaky, > the picture is very close to the right size while it lasts..... just lacks > a lil from the top and > that narrow stripe there, looks like an open bypass cap.... but there ain't > any left > Will check again and tell you > Thanks > Jorge GY Electronics, Dallas > > > At 08:51 a.m. 17/05/02 -0500, DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > >First re-estimate it so you get paid for this nightmare unit. > >2nd check your +28 V at pin 8, and the same at pin 11, I think (vert pump > >up). > >Next, you MUST HAVE 10 or 11 volts at pin 1, if not there is a zener diode > >real close to the pin that will cause vert collapse, stretching in the > >middle....even if it's off by 0.2 volts!! > >Since you checked the caps I assume you also checked the Vert B+ off the > >IHVT. > > > >Damon Brunger > >damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Telrad Electronic Services > >Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jorge Camboni" <geo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 3:37 AM > >Subject: [TechAssist] Mitsubishi VS4507R weird vertical problem > > > > > >> > >> > >> Hi fellows, need your help on a Mitsubishi rear projection set, VS4507R > >> model, it has a very weird vertical problem: > >> a couple of inches wide very dark horizontal stripe, almost at the top, > >> crossed by a few white, retrace-like > >> lines, and that pattern is SUPERIMPOSED to the picture, which can be seen > >> faintly in the background. > >> also the vertical amplitude decreased just a little (top).After a few > >> minutes, the > >> vertical amplitude decreases some more inches, and power goes off.This is > >a > >> very technician unfriendly set, > >> had to work with it at the customer's house, I managed to get the boards > >> out and change all the > >> bad and suspicious caps in the vertical section, (found a couple almost > >> dry) and one dead > >> cap in the power supply, checked all around the jungle IC, did a thorough > >> resoldering and cleaning > >> on the boards. All this job was not the most technical approach, but it is > >> what you have > >> to do first at the customer's place, and it was almost impossible to make > >> serious measurements > >> folded onto myself on the floor and struggling with a fierce cable-web > >:o)) > >> I hoped for the best and failed.... > >> Found NO TIPS on this model. Service manual is out of question (gave them > >a > >> ridicously low estimate, > >> hoping for usual LA7838 tale.. ), and to make a sad story worst, I can not > >> bring this one > >> to the workshop. SO...ANY HELP WILL BE SO MUCH APPRECIATED!!!! > >> > >> tnx in advance Jorge Camboni GY Electronics, Dallas (for so many years > >> cx8bbh) > >> ------------------------------------------ > >> To REMOVE your email address, click here: > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > >> ------------------------------------------ > >> ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > >> Submit Repair Tips here: > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > >> > > > >------------------------------------------ > >To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > >------------------------------------------ > >***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > >Submit Repair Tips here: > >http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > ------------------------------------------ > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > ------------------------------------------ > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > Submit Repair Tips here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > ------------------------------------------ To REMOVE your email address, click here: http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html ------------------------------------------ ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** Submit Repair Tips here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/