[TechAssist] Re: JVC TV model AV27CM3- top half of screen stretched with foldover [SECOND POST]

  • From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:21:40 -0400

I always seem to have trouble when I use a Generic Vert IC's  esp  SK's
Phillip R Hull
phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter oliver" <oliver_peter1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: JVC TV model AV27CM3- top half of screen stretched
with foldover [SECOND POST]


>
> IF you have ever worked on a sony xbr that has had a jungle ic problem the
> output had an extra blip in the center of the waveform. Is it possible
that
> the input signal from the video jungle is bad. As for gerneric IC it
> shouldent matter LA7838 is made by sanyo if you buy from JVC they bought
it
> from sanyo put it in a bag and put their part number on it and mark up the
> price. You could try another gerieric as occasionally there is a bad one
> (<1% I've found) but never have seen a whole batch even when buying bulk
> ones 10+ at a time for $0.99 ea or less.
>
> Peter Oliver
> Tucson Radio TV
>
>
> From: Gary McCartney <number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: JVC TV model AV27CM3- top half of screen
stretched
>   with foldover [SECOND POST]
> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 01:20:43 -0400
>
>
> Leroy, thanks for researching that for me. Unfortunately it didn't solve
> it. Someone sent me a partial schematic for a similar model, so
> hopefully that will help me notice something. The waveforms I measured
> seem to check out against the print, so thats good, except for the blip
> on my output waveform. Do you think there is any chance that my brand
> new generic LA7838 could be causing the exact same symptom as the
> original IC?
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
> LeRoy Westlund wrote:
>  >
>  > Gary,
>  > I see that you didn't list C422 as one you have checked.
>  > It is a 1ufd. @ 35 volts (Tentanilum).
>  > Worth a try, maybe ?
>  >
>  > HTH,
>  > LLW
>  >
>  > LeRoy Westlund
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>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Gary McCartney <number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > Date: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:17 PM
>  > Subject: [TechAssist] JVC TV model AV27CM3- top half of screen
stretched
>  > with foldover [SECOND POST]
>  >
>  > >
>  > >I still haven't solved this set.
>  > >
>  > >Measured B+ to vertical chip. I get 28.7V with 1.5 V p-p of ripple.
>  > >Replaced D534 rectifier and C534 filter cap but no change in ripple.
>  > >Also measured output of 12 V regulator I changed earlier. Measured
>  > >11.94V, with no noticable ripple. Scoped input pulse to vert. chip at
>  > >pin 2 and got nice clean square wave at 8V p-p and very high duty
cycle,
>  > >maybe 95%. I don't have waveforms or schematic in print to verify my
>  > >measurements to be correct. Scoped vertical output waveform on pin 12
>  > >and get 55V p-p pulse with a blip in the slope which doesn't look
>  > >normal. I drew a picture of this and posted it for you to view:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >http://www.number63.ca/waveform.jpg
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >Also replaced yoke. I found one in my stock which appears to be the
>  > >exact same yoke only out of a Philips set and the connectors were a
bit
>  > >different. I switched the connectors from the JVC yoke and tried it.
No
>  > >change in problem. If anyone is interested, here are the yoke numbers
>  > >(from the stickers on the yokes). Sorry I don't have record of the
>  > >Philips TV model.
>  > >
>  > >Original JVC yoke:  CE20240-AOA
>  > >Philips yoke:       362075-7
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >Changed a few more small caps and resistors in the vertical section.
>  > >Problem has not improved. Any help appreciated.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >Gary McCartney
>  > >
>  > >McCartney Electronics
>  > >7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
>  > >Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
>  > >Fax: (519)821-1530
>  > >email: number63 (at) inetsonic.com
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >My original message:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >This is a 27" JVC tV  model AV27CM3. No Sams listed but there is one
for
>  > >model AV27CM4, # 3379.
>  > >
>  > >The vertical linearity is off all the way from the bottom but once it
>  > >hits the center of the screen, it starts stretching so bad that there
is
>  > >about 3" of foldover.
>  > >
>  > >Working without a schematic. I have replaced:
>  > >
>  > >IC421, LA7838
>  > >IC422, 12V regulator
>  > >ZD425, 75V 1W
>  > >C425
>  > >C426
>  > >C430
>  > >C421
>  > >C536
>  > >C530
>  > >
>  > >I removed D421 and checked it but I don't know what it is. marking on
it
>  > >is 3N. It looks like a glass 1W zener but symbol on board shows it as
a
>  > >regular diode. Checks ok anyways.
>  > >
>  > >Does anyone have a schematic of the vertical circuit plus hopefully
>  > >waveforms?
>  > >
>  > >Thanks for any help.
>  > >--
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >Gary McCartney
>  > >
>  > >McCartney Electronics
>  > >7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
>  > >Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
>  > >Fax: (519)821-1530
>  > >email: number63 (at) inetsonic.com
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> Gary McCartney
>
> McCartney Electronics
> 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
> Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
> Fax: (519)821-1530
> email: number63 (at) inetsonic.com
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