I always seem to have trouble when I use a Generic Vert IC's esp SK's Phillip R Hull phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter oliver" <oliver_peter1@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: JVC TV model AV27CM3- top half of screen stretched with foldover [SECOND POST] > > IF you have ever worked on a sony xbr that has had a jungle ic problem the > output had an extra blip in the center of the waveform. Is it possible that > the input signal from the video jungle is bad. As for gerneric IC it > shouldent matter LA7838 is made by sanyo if you buy from JVC they bought it > from sanyo put it in a bag and put their part number on it and mark up the > price. You could try another gerieric as occasionally there is a bad one > (<1% I've found) but never have seen a whole batch even when buying bulk > ones 10+ at a time for $0.99 ea or less. > > Peter Oliver > Tucson Radio TV > > > From: Gary McCartney <number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: JVC TV model AV27CM3- top half of screen stretched > with foldover [SECOND POST] > Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 01:20:43 -0400 > > > Leroy, thanks for researching that for me. Unfortunately it didn't solve > it. Someone sent me a partial schematic for a similar model, so > hopefully that will help me notice something. The waveforms I measured > seem to check out against the print, so thats good, except for the blip > on my output waveform. Do you think there is any chance that my brand > new generic LA7838 could be causing the exact same symptom as the > original IC? > > > Gary > > > > > LeRoy Westlund wrote: > > > > Gary, > > I see that you didn't list C422 as one you have checked. > > It is a 1ufd. @ 35 volts (Tentanilum). > > Worth a try, maybe ? > > > > HTH, > > LLW > > > > LeRoy Westlund > > Westlund TV & Electronics " It's such a pretty world > > 93 North Main today !.... > > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 Look at the Sunshine. " > > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 :-) > > mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary McCartney <number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:17 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] JVC TV model AV27CM3- top half of screen stretched > > with foldover [SECOND POST] > > > > > > > >I still haven't solved this set. > > > > > >Measured B+ to vertical chip. I get 28.7V with 1.5 V p-p of ripple. > > >Replaced D534 rectifier and C534 filter cap but no change in ripple. > > >Also measured output of 12 V regulator I changed earlier. Measured > > >11.94V, with no noticable ripple. Scoped input pulse to vert. chip at > > >pin 2 and got nice clean square wave at 8V p-p and very high duty cycle, > > >maybe 95%. I don't have waveforms or schematic in print to verify my > > >measurements to be correct. Scoped vertical output waveform on pin 12 > > >and get 55V p-p pulse with a blip in the slope which doesn't look > > >normal. I drew a picture of this and posted it for you to view: > > > > > > > > >http://www.number63.ca/waveform.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > >Also replaced yoke. I found one in my stock which appears to be the > > >exact same yoke only out of a Philips set and the connectors were a bit > > >different. I switched the connectors from the JVC yoke and tried it. No > > >change in problem. If anyone is interested, here are the yoke numbers > > >(from the stickers on the yokes). Sorry I don't have record of the > > >Philips TV model. > > > > > >Original JVC yoke: CE20240-AOA > > >Philips yoke: 362075-7 > > > > > > > > >Changed a few more small caps and resistors in the vertical section. > > >Problem has not improved. Any help appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > >Gary McCartney > > > > > >McCartney Electronics > > >7134 Fife Rd, RR 7 > > >Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4 > > >Fax: (519)821-1530 > > >email: number63 (at) inetsonic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My original message: > > > > > > > > >This is a 27" JVC tV model AV27CM3. No Sams listed but there is one for > > >model AV27CM4, # 3379. > > > > > >The vertical linearity is off all the way from the bottom but once it > > >hits the center of the screen, it starts stretching so bad that there is > > >about 3" of foldover. > > > > > >Working without a schematic. I have replaced: > > > > > >IC421, LA7838 > > >IC422, 12V regulator > > >ZD425, 75V 1W > > >C425 > > >C426 > > >C430 > > >C421 > > >C536 > > >C530 > > > > > >I removed D421 and checked it but I don't know what it is. marking on it > > >is 3N. It looks like a glass 1W zener but symbol on board shows it as a > > >regular diode. Checks ok anyways. > > > > > >Does anyone have a schematic of the vertical circuit plus hopefully > > >waveforms? > > > > > >Thanks for any help. > > >-- > > > > > > > > > > > >Gary McCartney > > > > > >McCartney Electronics > > >7134 Fife Rd, RR 7 > > >Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4 > > >Fax: (519)821-1530 > > >email: number63 (at) inetsonic.com > > > > > >------------------------------------------ > > >To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > >To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > >------------------------------------------ > > >***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > >Submit Repair Tips here: > > >http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > ------------------------------------------ > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > -- > > > > Gary McCartney > > McCartney Electronics > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7 > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4 > Fax: (519)821-1530 > email: number63 (at) inetsonic.com > > > > ------------------------------------------ > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > ------------------------------------------ > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > Submit Repair Tips here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------ > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > ------------------------------------------ > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > Submit Repair Tips here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > ------------------------------------------ To REMOVE your email address, click here: http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html To CHANGE your email address, click here: http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html ------------------------------------------ ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** Submit Repair Tips here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/