[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one standard ?

From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:24:42 -0700 (PDT)
Yes, true hd is superior.
But, there is very little true hd out there.
When I was at Future Tech we had a small theatre
set up in the store, with nice couches, surround
sound, mood lighting, and a 60" Toshiba, or Hitachi
showing a true hd demo.
People would look at that, and go bananas.
Them when they got it home(in their doublewide
trailor),  and hooked it to regular cable or
satellite, or worse, a broken antenna, it didn't
measure up.
And, they were mad.
For HD to work, it has to have been filmed with a
HD camera, and processed HD all the way down the
chain.
Walter

--- Kevin's TV Repair <kevintv@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> I believe if we all had seen a true high
> definition picture right beside
> the same NTSC feed on a 40"+ TV, the score would
> be 10-0 or at least 9-1
> in favor of HDTV.  
> 
> Kevin Wilks
> Kevin's TV Repair
> Penticton BC Canada 
> kevintv@xxxxxxx
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:02 AM
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC
> goes,will we have one
> standard ?
> 
> Now the secret is revealed.
> New score : 9 For,....and 6 against.
> That's still not a very good score for a system
> that is supposed to be
> 10
> times better.
> (Score should have been 10 to 0.)
> ;-)
> 
> LLW
> 
> LeRoy Westlund
> Westlund TV & Electronics
> 97 North Main                             " I
> forgot,..to remember,..
> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
> Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Vanaman <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:32 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC
> goes,will we have
> onestandard ?
> 
> 
> >NTSC TV has anomolies (distortion) that we have
> come to accept as
> normal.
> >
> >For instance, interlace scanning.  When you
> watch an NTSC set you see
> >the picture jumping up and down and accept it as
> normal.  When you look
> >across the room you (hopefully) don't see items
> "vibrating" up and
> down.
> >  Your head has been programed to accept the
> interlaced picture as
> >normal.  That is one reason that people don't
> like NTSC on most HD
> sets,
> >the scan rates are either doubled on
> progressive, and they are not
> >seeing the interlacing effects.  The head is
> expecting to see it,
> acount
> >for it, but it isn't there, so the head says it
> is wrong.
> >
> >ATSC formats also have anomolies, or
> distortions, but they are
> different
> >from those we are accustomed to, hence they are
> "wrong".
> >
> >I have been watching a 61" RCA DTV301 chassis
> set for a few years now.
> >This set beats the best NTSC sets I have seen. 
> I would rather watch
> >NTSC on this set than an NTSC set, but HD is
> fantastic.
> >
> >When you view an NTSC signal on an HD set you
> are seeing the worst of
> >both worlds added together.  Kind of like
> hetrodyning.
> >
> >For the most part the HD sets are good enough to
> show the crappy signal
> >you think is good on a lesser (NTSC).
> >
> >One of the things I tell my customers:
> >You look out the window every day.  One day you
> realize the window is
> >dirty, and you clean it.  Now when you look out
> the window you see
> there
> >is debris in the yard, the grass is too tall,
> and there are some weeds.
> >  You didn't see it before because the window
> was dirty.  And it isn't
> >the windows fault that you now see your yard
> needs some work.
> >
> >By the way, the date for cessation of NTSC
> broadcasts is Dec 31, 2006.
>
>http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/digitaltv.html
> >
> >Wayne Vanaman
> >Omega Electronics
> >6904 W Fairfield Dr
> >Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
> >
> >Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> >
> >850-456-5995 voice
> >850-458-6369 fax
> >
> >
> >Gregory Smith wrote:
> >> I guess you guys that think a NTSC signal
> looks better than a HD
> signal
> >> haven't seen a true 1080 or 720 broadcast on a
> HD set.  I will agree
> that
> a
> >> NTSC signal looks better on a good analog TV
> than a HD set.  If you
> can
> >> honestly say that you have seen a true HD
> broadcast off of
> DishNetwork,
> >> Directv, Cable, or Over-the-air HD on an HD
> set & still think the
> NTSC
> looks
> >> better then I think you definently need to go
> to the eye doctor
> (figure
> of
> >> speech, not meant to offend anyone).  By the
> way my 83 year old
> >> Father-in-law says the HD broadcast looks
> fantastic, no comparison
> from a
> >> basketball game in HD on TNT versus TNT analog
> on his 32" flat screen
> >> Toshiba, no comparison!!!
> >> By the way a date has been set already for the
> cut-off of analog
> broadcast
> >> of Jan. 1, 2009. Greg
> >> Gregory B. Smith
> >> G & A Electronic Services
> >> 2521 N. Laurent
> >> Victoria, TX 77901
> >> Ph. 361-575-1998
> >> gaserv@xxxxxxx
> >>
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Walter Wood                  
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