[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one standard ?

From: "Hoyt's TV" <hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:48:32 -0400
Not until after I take a double dose of my blood pressure pills.
And get my AA guns in position for when the black helicopters arrive.

Russ Hoyt
Hoyt's TV
Exeter, NH


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <majorthom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:15 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one 
standard ?


> We could always switch topic to Eminent Domain
> Pete
> Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The change of system was pushed by a couple of large equippment
> manufacturers with lots of lobbying money. TV stations were strongly
> opposed because it is costing them millions of dollars to upgrage their
> equippment with no increase in advertising revenue. Quite likely there
> will be some small market stations that will fold because they cannot
> afford the upgrade.
>
> For a large part the public don't care as long as there is something on
> the screen and it talks. A few appreciate the improved quality, and
> others get it because they are told it's the thing to do and to impress
> their friends. Its kind of like stereo audio, a large percent of people
> cannot tell the difference between stereo and a mono signal on two
> speakers and cannot hear anything above 8 or 10Khz yet they go buy an
> expensive surround audio system.
>
> Al G
>
> J Silverman wrote:
>> This is an example of change driven by the people who hope to profit from
>> forcing it on the public, rather than change due to demand from the 
>> public.
>> Jerry Silverman
>> Greentron Inc
>> 4 Newland Ave
>> Greenville SC 29609
>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "LeRoy Westlund"
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:53 AM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>> standard ?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Well,...then you won't have to be one of the poor suckers that will need
>>
>> to
>>
>>>make the switch. Your already there. They can't all be that lucky,...and
>>>many of them won't even know things of that nature even exist. If they 
>>>buy
>>
>> a
>>
>>>new set, they won't even know what buttons to push on thier remotes to 
>>>get
>>>the most out of it.
>>>
>>>Kinda like the "PIP",....5% of them used it,...95% of them didn't even
>>
>> know
>>
>>>it was there. Also,...closed caption,...5% use it,....for the rest it is
>>>only an anoyance. Three languages on a Menu was also a stupid thing to
>>>allow. "SAP",....was completly un-necassary. Nobody uses it.
>>>
>>>There is no reason to switch from a system that 95% of the American
>>>consumers are already satisfied with. It's crazy to keep changing things
>>>just because you can. Have something good ? Stick with it,...screw the
>>
>> rest
>>
>>>of the world.
>>>
>>>LLW
>>>
>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Ron Miller d.b.a. Country TV
>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:11 PM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>standard ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>My 53in Panasonic rear projection crt PTV with native res of 1080i using
>>>>Dish network for HD programming and also the free OTA signals BLOW NTSC
>>
>> all
>>
>>>>to pieces.
>>>>Country TV
>>>>Ron Miller
>>>>Inez, TX. 77968
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund"
>>>>To:
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:38 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>
>>>standard
>>>
>>>>?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>No,...I didn't say that,...but,...since you brought it up,....I see no
>>>>>need
>>>>>to change the system. The picture on the NTSC sets is plenty good
>>
>> enough
>>
>>>>>for
>>>>>the average Joe Blow.(including me). The picture on a HDTV looks kinda
>>>>>phoney to me. The old system looks more "life like".
>>>
>>>Sometimes,...progress
>>>
>>>>>is not always for the better. The whole direction this country is
>>
>> headed
>>
>>>>>in,
>>>>>is fast getting out of hand. We are headed for disaster.
>>>>>
>>>>>IMO,
>>>>>LLW
>>>>>
>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
>>>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Ron Miller d.b.a. Country TV
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:17 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>standard ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you saying you would rather see TV broadcast stay analog NTSC
>>>>>
>>>>>standard??
>>>>>
>>>>>>Country TV
>>>>>>Ron Miller
>>>>>>Inez, TX. 77968
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund"
>>>>>>To:
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:48 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>>
>>>>>standard
>>>>>
>>>>>>?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I disagree.
>>>>>>>I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and
>>>
>>>when
>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we
>>>>>>>better
>>>>>>>be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this country
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>>>>too
>>>>>>>weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial needs,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will
>>>>>
>>>>>accept
>>>>>
>>>>>>>it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road. The
>>
>> dogs
>>
>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>keep um movin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>LLW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>>>97 North Main " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
>>>>>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>>>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Al Gutz
>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>
>>>>>haveone
>>>>>
>>>>>>>standard?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480
>>>
>>>signals.
>>>
>>>>>>>>Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the
>>>
>>>rest
>>>
>>>>>>>>of the time to use lower res and have something like an info, 
>>>>>>>>weather
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>>>>>>shopping channel.
>>>>>>>>Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower
>>>
>>>middleclass
>>>
>>>>>>>>doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants 
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich
>>>
>>>guys
>>>
>>>>>>>>are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and
>>>>>>>>governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter
>>
>> boxes
>>
>>>>>>>>then they better be free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Al G
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates.
>>>>>>>>>640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some
>>
>> will
>>
>>>>>>>>>favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be
>>
>> popular,others
>>
>>>>>>>>>obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change.
>>>>>>>>>Phil
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: Damon
>>>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>>>>>have one standard?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Well, the scan rates will not change.....but
>>>>>>>>>>You'll probably always see 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals,
>>>>>>>>>>Although I suspect most, if not all TV stations will move towards
>>>>>>>>>>1080i,
>>>>>>>>>>ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P.
>>>>>>>>>>So no, you'll see 4 standards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Damon Brunger
>>>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Al L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>
>> standard?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one standard?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>system,and only
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>one hdtv standard. How about it?Is there hope?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>>>>>>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>>>>>>>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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