I had service call today and the customer had a X Box game machine that used component out, he could select 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i output. I don't know anything about these game boxes but it had a good pattern and i used it to align the convergence on his 60" Panasonic. Maybe this X box would make an inexpensive HD signal source and you could play games when your bored! Robert tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx H & H Electronics Inc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/