Good advice Jay, but there's another option. They can use Western union to originate a money order. I've used this option with a couple sellers on Ebay, and it works well. But, you still want to wait a few days until the actual money order is in your hands. John Myers Myers TV Service Since 1984 Alliance, OH ph 330-821-6545 sent @ 8:41 EST ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Knoll" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:01 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: DVD's & Credit Card scam > The point of shipping only to the billing address of the credit card is to > make sure you are not using a stolen credit card. Nothing is 100% but it > sure makes sense and cuts risks. > If you told these people calling that you could only ship to the credit > card billing address I am sure they would just go away. > -- > Jay Knoll (TechAssist Monitor) > Jay's TV Service > Clarksburg, WV > > > The seller is NOT protected, unless they have an actual signature from the > > customer. > > Any Internet sale is at risk...at least that is what Visa told me. > > If suspicious, ask for a faxed copy front and back of credit card and > > signature and approval amount. > > > > Jeff Dougherty > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > 263 S Front St > > Steelton PA 17113 > > fax...717-564-4952 > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jay Knoll" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 6:09 AM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: DVD's & Credit Card scam > > > > > > I thought the rule was only ship products to the credit card billing > > address? This would protect you from charge backs. Wouldn't that protect > > the seller? When I had a merchant account that was the rule that I was > > told to follow. Unless you know the person ordering only ship to the > > billing address of the credit card. Ed's Wal-Mart referral is a good > > alternative though. Don't we all love Wal-Mart? > > > > -- > > Jay Knoll (TechAssist Monitor) > > Jay's TV Service > > Clarksburg, WV > > > > > >> I wonder if these scammers are Gypsies. > >> > >> Kevin Wilks > >> Kevin's TV & Video Repair > >> Penticton BC Canada > >> kevintv@xxxxxxx > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ed Gaidies > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 12:32 PM > >> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: DVD's & Credit Card scam > >> > >> That would take time....and I don't think these guys can hang around for > >> too long, in any one area. > >> > >> -Ed- > >> > >> Ed Gaidies > >> Tel-Tek Electronics. > >> Ontario-Canada > >> > >> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J Silverman > >> Sent: February 11, 2004 2:51 PM > >> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: DVD's & Credit Card scam > >> > >> I would think that a clever thief would try to gain your confidence by > >> making some ligitimate purchases that you get paid for. THEN they hit > >> you > >> for the big stuff. > >> Jerry Silverman > >> Greentron Inc > >> 4 Newland Ave > >> Greenville SC 29609 > >> 864 232 3889 > >> Fax 271 2080 > >> mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:29 AM > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: DVD's & Credit Card scam > >> > >> > >>> Hmm..doesn't make sense, since DVD, next to VCR' are on the bottom of > >>> the ladder as far as price. Would be interesting to find out what's > >>> behind this. > >>> Some one must think that we are very gullible. Might be time to > >>> have every Domain, and address Registered, and charge the people that > >>> these things are Registered to. > >>> > >>> -Ed- > >>> > >>> Ed Gaidies > >>> Tel-Tek Electronics > >>> Ontario-Canada > >>> > >>> Servicing the Consumer Electronic Industry since 1963 > >>> > >>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John @ Myers TV > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:14 AM > >>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: DVD's & Credit Card scam > >>> > >>> Ed, > >>> > >>> I think what happens is that after the DVDs are shipped, the charge > >> gets > >>> reversed as fraudulent, and the seller is out the money, & the > >>> equipment. > >>> > >>> John Myers > >>> Myers TV > >>> Alliance, OH > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:10 AM > >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: DVD's & Credit Card scam > >>> > >>> > >>> > So does anyone actually know how The "Scam" works? > >>> > > >>> > -Ed- > >>> > > >>> > Ed Gaidies > >>> > Tel-Tek Electronics > >>> > Ontario-Canada > >>> > > >>> > Servicing the Consumer Electronic Industry since 1963 > >>> > > >>> > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > >>> > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > >>> Royal19960@xxxxxxx > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 12:41 AM > >>> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: DVD's & Credit Card scam > >>> > > >>> > I saw the posts on this scam and, son of a gun, I got one of those > >>> > calls. It > >>> > was through the Wisconsin Relay for the hearing impaired. I told the > >>> > operator > >>> > right away it was a scam but I played along for about 1/2 hour. They > >>> had > >>> > a > >>> > shipping address in Georgia but Yahoo maps didn't have that address > >> on > >>> > the > >>> > street. The phone number was not valid either. I told him the first > >>> cc# > >>> > didn't go > >>> > through so he had another one. Needless to say I didn't really run > >> any > >>> > but > >>> > within 15 mins I got 3 more phone calls wanting to buy all the dvd > >>> > players I could > >>> > sell. 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